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16 minutes ago, shadetree said:

they only made them up until 1989 in usa, canada and other countries have them up to 93 i think ?. but regardless, any model after 1989 is still a 1989 model in the eyes of honda. you also have to watch ebay sellers, they do not know all they claim to know !..lol.

 

I was going off the OEM parts list on Bikebandit and Partzilla, neither of which listed 92 as an option for 350D.

 

What I linked should work then. That part number is the same as 89

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I got you!

 

I went from the Honda part number of 42203-ha7-771 to an aftermarket replacement part number 19-5008-FO and then found that part on Amazon.

 

All Balls 19-5008 Black 17mm x 60mm x 81mm Long CV Boot Kit

https://www.amazon.com/All-Balls-19-5008-Black-17mm/dp/B019QFHRZA

 

Edit: Amazon UK was a no-go so check this out on eBay UK

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CV-Boot-Kit-for-most-4x4-ATVs-Quad-Spares-Parts/163177459791?hash=item25fe22704f:g:k00AAOSwr6FaIYBP

 

If this is actually the part you need it replaces a LOT of different boots and is cheap from multiple manufactures.

 

Honda NOS parts are great but rubber ones... IDK. I would probably go with a new aftermarket one.

 

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OEM Replacement : Can-Am 705400127, Can-Am 705400038, Can-Am 705400180, Can-Am 705400063, Can-Am 705400064, Honda 42240-HN5-N00, Honda 42204-HC5-003, Honda 42204-HM5-630, Honda 42207-HC5-003, Honda 42207-HM5-630, Honda 42204-HA7-671, Honda 42204-HA7-672, Honda 42204-HA7-771, Honda 44208-HP5-601, Honda 42206-HC5-003, Honda 42206-HM5-630, Honda 42205-HA7-671, Honda 42205-HA7-672, Honda 42205-HA7-771, Honda 44206-HN8-A41, Honda 42202-HC5-003, Honda 42202-HM5-630, Honda 42203-HA7-671, Honda 42203-HA7-771, John Deere C705400127, John Deere C705400180, John Deere C705400064, Kawasaki 49006-0054, Kawasaki 49006-1318, Kawasaki 49006-1324, Kymco 44208-ALC1-305, Kymco 44208-PWB1-305, Kymco 44210-ALC1-E00, Kymco 44209-PWB1-900, Kymco 44211-ALC1-E00, Kymco 44208-PWB1-305, Polaris 2203141, Polaris 2203170, Polaris 7081348, Polaris 7081349, Suzuki 54930-19B12, Suzuki 54930-19B10, Suzuki 54930-19B11, Suzuki 54930-19B21, Suzuki 54930-19B20, Suzuki 54930-27H01, Suzuki 54930-27H00, Suzuki 54930-38F10, Suzuki K4900-60035, Suzuki K4900-60006, Suzuki 44121-60DB0, Suzuki 54923-19B10, Suzuki 44121-38F30, Suzuki 44124-60DB0, Suzuki 54924-19B10, Suzuki 44124-38F00, Yamaha 3HN-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4S1-2510G-01-00, Yamaha 4S1-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 5UH-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4KB-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4KB-2510G-10-00, Yamaha 5GH-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 5KM-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 3HN-2511G-01-00, Yamaha 2HR-2511G-00-00, Yamaha 3HN-2512G-01-00, Yamaha 2HR-2512G-00-00

 

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44 minutes ago, oh400ex said:

I got you!

 

I went from the Honda part number of 42203-ha7-771 to an aftermarket replacement part number 19-5008-FO and then found that part on Amazon.

 

All Balls 19-5008 Black 17mm x 60mm x 81mm Long CV Boot Kit

https://www.amazon.com/All-Balls-19-5008-Black-17mm/dp/B019QFHRZA

 

Edit: Amazon UK was a no-go so check this out on eBay UK

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CV-Boot-Kit-for-most-4x4-ATVs-Quad-Spares-Parts/163177459791?hash=item25fe22704f:g:k00AAOSwr6FaIYBP

 

If this is actually the part you need it replaces a LOT of different boots and is cheap from multiple manufactures.

 

Honda NOS parts are great but rubber ones... IDK. I would probably go with a new aftermarket one.

 

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OEM Replacement : Can-Am 705400127, Can-Am 705400038, Can-Am 705400180, Can-Am 705400063, Can-Am 705400064, Honda 42240-HN5-N00, Honda 42204-HC5-003, Honda 42204-HM5-630, Honda 42207-HC5-003, Honda 42207-HM5-630, Honda 42204-HA7-671, Honda 42204-HA7-672, Honda 42204-HA7-771, Honda 44208-HP5-601, Honda 42206-HC5-003, Honda 42206-HM5-630, Honda 42205-HA7-671, Honda 42205-HA7-672, Honda 42205-HA7-771, Honda 44206-HN8-A41, Honda 42202-HC5-003, Honda 42202-HM5-630, Honda 42203-HA7-671, Honda 42203-HA7-771, John Deere C705400127, John Deere C705400180, John Deere C705400064, Kawasaki 49006-0054, Kawasaki 49006-1318, Kawasaki 49006-1324, Kymco 44208-ALC1-305, Kymco 44208-PWB1-305, Kymco 44210-ALC1-E00, Kymco 44209-PWB1-900, Kymco 44211-ALC1-E00, Kymco 44208-PWB1-305, Polaris 2203141, Polaris 2203170, Polaris 7081348, Polaris 7081349, Suzuki 54930-19B12, Suzuki 54930-19B10, Suzuki 54930-19B11, Suzuki 54930-19B21, Suzuki 54930-19B20, Suzuki 54930-27H01, Suzuki 54930-27H00, Suzuki 54930-38F10, Suzuki K4900-60035, Suzuki K4900-60006, Suzuki 44121-60DB0, Suzuki 54923-19B10, Suzuki 44121-38F30, Suzuki 44124-60DB0, Suzuki 54924-19B10, Suzuki 44124-38F00, Yamaha 3HN-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4S1-2510G-01-00, Yamaha 4S1-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 5UH-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4KB-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4KB-2510G-10-00, Yamaha 5GH-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 5KM-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 3HN-2511G-01-00, Yamaha 2HR-2511G-00-00, Yamaha 3HN-2512G-01-00, Yamaha 2HR-2512G-00-00

 

Oh wow you've found a ton of great looking stuff! Thanks for all of that man! I might order one and see how it goes, if it fits I'll get another. Can only try I guess:) 

Thanks for that! Brilliant 

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11 hours ago, oh400ex said:

 

I was going off the OEM parts list on Bikebandit and Partzilla, neither of which listed 92 as an option for 350D.

 

What I linked should work then. That part number is the same as 89

yeah, you wont find any parts on both of those sites for a 1992 trx350D foreman, because both of those sites are drawing their fich from honda, and honda did not make them after 1989 here in the states.

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10 hours ago, oh400ex said:

I got you!

 

I went from the Honda part number of 42203-ha7-771 to an aftermarket replacement part number 19-5008-FO and then found that part on Amazon.

 

All Balls 19-5008 Black 17mm x 60mm x 81mm Long CV Boot Kit

https://www.amazon.com/All-Balls-19-5008-Black-17mm/dp/B019QFHRZA

 

Edit: Amazon UK was a no-go so check this out on eBay UK

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CV-Boot-Kit-for-most-4x4-ATVs-Quad-Spares-Parts/163177459791?hash=item25fe22704f:g:k00AAOSwr6FaIYBP

 

If this is actually the part you need it replaces a LOT of different boots and is cheap from multiple manufactures.

 

Honda NOS parts are great but rubber ones... IDK. I would probably go with a new aftermarket one.

 

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OEM Replacement : Can-Am 705400127, Can-Am 705400038, Can-Am 705400180, Can-Am 705400063, Can-Am 705400064, Honda 42240-HN5-N00, Honda 42204-HC5-003, Honda 42204-HM5-630, Honda 42207-HC5-003, Honda 42207-HM5-630, Honda 42204-HA7-671, Honda 42204-HA7-672, Honda 42204-HA7-771, Honda 44208-HP5-601, Honda 42206-HC5-003, Honda 42206-HM5-630, Honda 42205-HA7-671, Honda 42205-HA7-672, Honda 42205-HA7-771, Honda 44206-HN8-A41, Honda 42202-HC5-003, Honda 42202-HM5-630, Honda 42203-HA7-671, Honda 42203-HA7-771, John Deere C705400127, John Deere C705400180, John Deere C705400064, Kawasaki 49006-0054, Kawasaki 49006-1318, Kawasaki 49006-1324, Kymco 44208-ALC1-305, Kymco 44208-PWB1-305, Kymco 44210-ALC1-E00, Kymco 44209-PWB1-900, Kymco 44211-ALC1-E00, Kymco 44208-PWB1-305, Polaris 2203141, Polaris 2203170, Polaris 7081348, Polaris 7081349, Suzuki 54930-19B12, Suzuki 54930-19B10, Suzuki 54930-19B11, Suzuki 54930-19B21, Suzuki 54930-19B20, Suzuki 54930-27H01, Suzuki 54930-27H00, Suzuki 54930-38F10, Suzuki K4900-60035, Suzuki K4900-60006, Suzuki 44121-60DB0, Suzuki 54923-19B10, Suzuki 44121-38F30, Suzuki 44124-60DB0, Suzuki 54924-19B10, Suzuki 44124-38F00, Yamaha 3HN-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4S1-2510G-01-00, Yamaha 4S1-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 5UH-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4KB-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 4KB-2510G-10-00, Yamaha 5GH-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 5KM-2510G-00-00, Yamaha 3HN-2511G-01-00, Yamaha 2HR-2511G-00-00, Yamaha 3HN-2512G-01-00, Yamaha 2HR-2512G-00-00

 

i don't think ?..you have messed with any of the OP's atvs lately ?, but i can tell you this..these models are NOT like the standard atvs out there !!!. like i said before in this thread, sellers on ebay don't know crap when it comes to parts for these models !!!. want to buy some beach front property in AZ ?, i got a few places that are prime !!..lol.

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5 hours ago, shadetree said:

i don't think ?..you have messed with any of the OP's atvs lately ?, but i can tell you this..these models are NOT like the standard atvs out there !!!. like i said before in this thread, sellers on ebay don't know crap when it comes to parts for these models !!!. want to buy some beach front property in AZ ?, i got a few places that are prime !!..lol.

 

This would not be my first 350D but it has been a while and I don't think I've ever put an aftermarket boot on one.

 

I'm not going off of an eBay seller's word as I described above they were found using the 88 model as a reference. 

You said above that 88-89 350D parts would fit the Canadian 92 model

 

Any particular reason you think they wouldn't fit?

 

I already bought a bridge so not looking or any property at the moment!

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8 hours ago, oh400ex said:

 

This would not be my first 350D but it has been a while and I don't think I've ever put an aftermarket boot on one.

 

I'm not going off of an eBay seller's word as I described above they were found using the 88 model as a reference. 

You said above that 88-89 350D parts would fit the Canadian 92 model

 

Any particular reason you think they wouldn't fit?

 

I already bought a bridge so not looking or any property at the moment!

it wont fit, because the cv joint is a very odd size for these models !.

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1 hour ago, shadetree said:

it wont fit, because the cv joint is a very odd size for these models !.

 

So are you saying that part number 42203-HA7-771 (AKA the OEM 1988-1989 350D boot part number) is not correct for the 92?

 

Not saying you are wrong. I trust your word, but what part number is/was it then?

 

My impression from earlier was 89 350D parts are interchangeable with 92 Canadian model

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1 hour ago, oh400ex said:

 

So are you saying that part number 42203-HA7-771 (AKA the OEM 1988-1989 350D boot part number) is not correct for the 92?

 

Not saying you are wrong. I trust your word, but what part number is/was it then?

 

My impression from earlier was 89 350D parts are interchangeable with 92 Canadian model

i am not saying the years will not swap out ?, i'm saying any after market boots will not fit !.

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5 minutes ago, shadetree said:

i am not saying the years will not swap out ?, i'm saying any after market boots will not fit !.

 

So you would go with Honda NOS as a first and best option? Followed by a used OEM?

 

Considering that Honda NOS is dead reliable I tend to agree but a rubber part would worry me.

As I mentioned earlier if I was to get an old part would have to give it the Methyl Salicylate treatment before I felt good putting it on a bike that was being restored to new condition. What would you do in his situation? Buy the NOS and treat it? What do you use?

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1 hour ago, oh400ex said:

 

So you would go with Honda NOS as a first and best option? Followed by a used OEM?

 

Considering that Honda NOS is dead reliable I tend to agree but a rubber part would worry me.

As I mentioned earlier if I was to get an old part would have to give it the Methyl Salicylate treatment before I felt good putting it on a bike that was being restored to new condition. What would you do in his situation? Buy the NOS and treat it? What do you use?

unless they are ripped ?, i re-use them. if they are ripped ?, i got a honey hole where i get them ( oem ).

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Thanks guys.. @shadetree @oh400ex

Only reason I was thinking of replacing the boots is because mine are a little perished (no splits yet though) and I thought it might be good to replace the cv grease. Maybe I'll leave it for the moment 🤔

 

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I've just been fitting the brake drum plugs and it seems that it's only the red plugs that fit??

I do have some other brake drums as well and thought I'd see if they were the same or not... however it seems that its only the bigger black plugs that fit these drums?? Anyone have any idea why the two drums are different??

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1 hour ago, TrxPipUK said:

I've just been fitting the brake drum plugs and it seems that it's only the red plugs that fit??

I do have some other brake drums as well and thought I'd see if they were the same or not... however it seems that its only the bigger black plugs that fit these drums?? Anyone have any idea why the two drums are different??

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answer: someone replaced one of the brake drums from another year model.

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If you ever get really motivated to renew a piece of rubber and haven't done it before it is really pretty easy.

 

As mentioned earlier Methyl Salicylate (Wintergreen Oil) is a fantastic rubber treatment.

 

You would take off the old boots and clean them extremely well in degreaser before boiling in a weak solution of water and MS for about 5 minutes and then allowing them to cool before treating with grease and oil. I use a splash of wintergreen oil in a 1000ml beaker of water on a hotplate stirrer but you don't have to go that far. Works great with a normal pot too.

 

Sounds like a lot of work but it gives great results. I have done this to old rubber parts of many different kinds and it always works. I've put old cracked boots back on after treatment (Because we had nothing else) and they are still holding grease to this day

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18 minutes ago, oh400ex said:

If you ever get really motivated to renew a piece of rubber and haven't done it before it is really pretty easy.

 

As mentioned earlier Methyl Salicylate (Wintergreen Oil) is a fantastic rubber treatment.

 

You would take off the old boots and clean them extremely well in degreaser before boiling in a weak solution of water and MS for about 5 minutes and then allowing them to cool before treating with grease and oil. I use a splash of wintergreen oil in a 1000ml beaker of water on a hotplate stirrer but you don't have to go that far. Works great with a normal pot too.

 

Sounds like a lot of work but it gives great results. I have done this to old rubber parts of many different kinds and it always works. I've put old cracked boots back on after treatment (Because we had nothing else) and they are still holding grease to this day

 

Interesting.  Where does one get "wintergreen oil"?  Sounds like something a hippie would have for joint pain.

 

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Where we're at you hear wintergreen and think of dip 🤣

 

eBay, Amazon, Chemical supply companies, and yes hippie shops with their essential oils but that route is expensive and contaminated with other junk.

 

I bought a gallon years ago and still have most of it. Don't search Wintergreen oil but look for Methyl Salicylate (same thing)

You just need a splash so the gallon was complete overkill. Should pay less than $100 for a gallon

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Methyl-Salicylate-Tech-Grade-1-gallon-128-oz/264497335349?hash=item3d95450c35:g:gCwAAOSwf9ddoyXp

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3 hours ago, shadetree said:

answer: someone replaced one of the brake drums from another year model.

Ohhh okay... So these drums could be off a 300 for example? Thanks man

 

3 hours ago, shadetree said:

i just want to know if the bearing worked for you ??..lol.

Yeah sorry lol.. I still haven't fitted it yet, been focusing on these front brakes.. I'll get it fitted into the clutch next time I'm in the workshop and will check it works as should. 👍🏻. Thanks man!!

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3 minutes ago, TrxPipUK said:

Ohhh okay... So these drums could be off a 300 for example? Thanks man

 

Yeah sorry lol.. I still haven't fitted it yet, been focusing on these front brakes.. I'll get it fitted into the clutch next time I'm in the workshop and will check it works as should. 👍🏻. Thanks man!!

no, i meant that some one swapped in another drum from another trx350 model, all years from 1986 to 1989 may seem the same ?, but they are not, the 1986 brake drum is different.

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15 hours ago, shadetree said:

no, i meant that some one swapped in another drum from another trx350 model, all years from 1986 to 1989 may seem the same ?, but they are not, the 1986 brake drum is different.

Ahh okay. So is it the 1986 the one with the black plugs in?

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21 minutes ago, TrxPipUK said:

Ahh okay. So is it the 1986 the one with the black plugs in?

i can't say for 100% ?, its been a min or two sense i last worked on a 1986 ?.

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5 hours ago, shadetree said:

i can't say for 100% ?, its been a min or two sense i last worked on a 1986 ?.

Thanks anyway. I appreciate the info 👍🏻.

 

You'll be pleased to hear that I installed the bearing into the clutch today 🙂 It all worked perfectly. Thankyouuu!!

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6 hours ago, TrxPipUK said:

Ahh okay. So is it the 1986 the one with the black plugs in?

Yes, the 1986 has the black plugs.

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