Firearms

[jeepwm69 7,601]

8 hours ago, Fishfiles said:

what about joe's son buying of a gun and lying on the form , another one of the many things sweep under the rug by the biden administration 

 

 

 

 

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I'd say there's definitely enough evidence to nail Hunter on that one, but he's not the type they're after. 

 

And honestly, we need to stop judging politicians by their crooked families.  If Hunter murders someone (and he probably has) that doesn't mean Joe murdered someone. 

 

Joe Biden is a complete and utter scumbag, and has plenty to be criticized.  Poking at his son does nothing to validate that, but does serve to distract people from the actual elected and their crimes.

[sled_22 845]

On 6/9/2021 at 11:54 AM, 01RUBY500 said:

This is my Browning Citori 525, 28ga…it’s 1 of 100, they only made 100 of them and this one #22 of that 100 special edition. I only use it for skeet. I tried selling it this past winter but idiots around here only wanted to pay what you can get any used Citori 28ga for  
 

If the trigger is gold, the bird will fold.

[LedFTed 1,127]

who needs a gun, if you got this doe.

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[LedFTed 1,127]

should i move this, What the!!!

think i will anyway..

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[Fishfiles 20,145]

My neighbor came over this morning with his new toy , he got it from Tractor Supply of all places , BB gun , co2   - @Wheeler don't get any ideas , it said right on side the box , not to be sold in Canada , LOL 

[Fishfiles 20,145]

On 6/24/2021 at 2:04 PM, jeepwm69 said:

 

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I'd say there's definitely enough evidence to nail Hunter on that one, but he's not the type they're after. 

 

And honestly, we need to stop judging politicians by their crooked families.  If Hunter murders someone (and he probably has) that doesn't mean Joe murdered someone. 

 

Joe Biden is a complete and utter scumbag, and has plenty to be criticized.  Poking at his son does nothing to validate that, but does serve to distract people from the actual elected and their crimes.

I just seen this post from all the way back in June , I would say your wrong about  that , when Joe  had Hunter's incident covered up, he brought himself into it , at that point it was about Joe 

[jeepwm69 7,601]

Well that's true, but covering up for scummy relatives is pretty common for politicians.  One could argue that he should go down for that, but I'd go after him for his own crimes.  Not like there aren't plenty of them.

[LedFTed 1,127]

the new gun laws are written to take guns from lawful owners, an allow unlawful owners to have guns. they, that be, like chaos, in the streets..

[sled_22 845]

17 minutes ago, LedFTed said:

the new gun laws are written to take guns from lawful owners, an allow unlawful owners to have guns. they, that be, like chaos, in the streets..

New gun laws are written to TURN otherwise lawful gun owners into unlawful gun owners, by definition. This is what will cause the chaos. Not ONE person I know or have talked to will be turning any firearms over peacefully. But that's rural WI... i'm sure it's a different tune down in big cities. stay off my lawn.

[Fishfiles 20,145]

I lost all my guns in the boating accident !!!!    ----  Number one answer ........

[_Wilson_™ 6,564]

9 hours ago, sled_22 said:

New gun laws are written to TURN otherwise lawful gun owners into unlawful gun owners, by definition. This is what will cause the chaos. Not ONE person I know or have talked to will be turning any firearms over peacefully. But that's rural WI... i'm sure it's a different tune down in big cities. stay off my lawn.

 

thats Purdy much  how it is here..... all i hear is, I'd like to see them just try to take our guns away! they might be biting off more then they wish for, because LE here feels the the same way as us rural folks.. as for the cities.... well LE has more issues to handle then taking guns away from the crimal element ..... if anything, they should be letting law abiding citizens keep there's and concentrate more on drug sells and use that would most likely be at the top of the list, and that's where the real problem is! 

[Bighanded 1,235]

rural lifestyle here. We see our guns as a healthy part of normal life. Most households do a bit of hunting..mostly deer and turkey. I always wear a S&W revolver with snake shot when I'm out on the property to deal with copperheads. And on the occassional nights when neighbors have encountered burglars rummaging through the cars, or sheds, etc, we tend to call one another for "support"

Through the many years I never felt like I needed anything more than a small 5-7round pistol, a shotgun for home defense and a decently accurate rifle for some hunting. Ammo meant that if you planned to do any plinking or hunting, you'd stop by the store and grab a box. The end.

 

it was only because some politicians began telling me that I should not be allowed to have  a gun, not allowed to have higher capacity, that I went shopping. Swear ta God, before they opened their mouths, it just wasn't an issue to me.  They are the primary reason/cause for my current tool box configuration.

 

I'm not trying to push this to a political post. I'm just saying that some leaders, be they a state governor, a senator, media, start spouting off, while allowing, even empowering terror on the streets from the likes of antifa, blm, etc.   I find myself heading back to the store for the tools and supplies they make me believe I'll need to protect myself and family.

 

and no, I'm not handing anything in. At my, age, I'll choose option B. I've trained under our local LEO,  even advanced work under our SWAT Sgt. as a privilege of having 3 generations of LEO in both city and county service. But this familiarity has simply reminded me that I have no delusions that my one bitty cannon is any match for a professionally trained, equipped force - be it local, or federal. So, no, I'm not saying "come n take".  I'm simply saying... I'm not going to comply.

I have an AR15, simply because they don't want me to. I've done very little work with it cause I prefer the bigger cal. I have trained extensively with my AR10 platform and yes both platforms have about 30 mags in various capacity for them.

I have civi versions of the military's new M17 and M18 platform sidearms with 21rd mags and optics, etc...plenty of training on them. But the reason I bought them was because of the higher capacity as a pushback to those that told me i should not be allowed to own them.

 

but again, these guns otherwise live in the safes in hopes that that battle bags never need to actually be used.

my normal life is a simple old 1989 colt mustang 380 just to help me stay safe from the one-off bad guy, not to go to war.

 

I am a peace maker, a worship pastor on staff at my church, Faithful to the same woman for 44 years, Dad to 4,  a Pappap to 9 grandkids and still hold down a full time day job. I'm the kind of guy that helps keep the machine going. They really should want to just leave me alone and let me keep pulling the wagon (Animal Farm reference).

 

the fact that they don't tells me everything I need to know about their true intent for our nation...and that evil, I am pledged to resist.

 

 

 

[jeepwm69 7,601]

Lost a friend this morning who was a HUGE shooter in our community.   He was 66, had knee surgery last week, and yesterday was doing some exercises on his knee and just sat down and died.  They suspect he threw a clot.

 

Anyhow, this guy owned the local muffler shop.  Stayed busy all the time, as he was honest, which in auto repair is hard to find now.

 

When I was younger he had all kinds of full auto stuff (all legal/registered) and he'd go out shooting every weekend.  I remember pulling up on a bridge out on the levee that used to be a popular place to shoot, and he had a Browning 1919 on a tripod in the back of his truck.  It was converted to 308, and by the end of the day the truck bed was knee deep in empty cases.  Had an MP5K he let us shoot.  An HK G3.  Lots of cool stuff, especially for a teenager.

 

When an inmate escaped from the local state pen, they called this guy out (he was deputized) as he had better thermal and night vision than the state police, and he helped catch the guy.

 

He worked on my Jeep when I was younger, and I even went out with his daughter a couple of times.  She told me to call her, and I said "I'm not calling you, your dad would kill me".   Few days later he came up to me and said "My daughter said you wouldn't call her because of me.  I like you and if you want to go out with her I'm perfectly ok with it"

 

I know he sold a lot of his full auto stuff a while back (bought a lake house with the proceeds), but he still had a TON of shooting stuff.  His kids are both libs and he was divorced, so I have to wonder what will happen will all of that.  Full autos and suppressors have to be transferred if sold, and that's a very long, drawn out process.  He probably had pallets of ammunition.  He was THE guy in town to go to if you wanted to know anything shooting.

 

I stopped by there a couple of weeks ago and talked to him for a bit, but he got busy in the shop, and told me to come back and talk to him soon.  Went by Friday and he was closed, which I thought weird, but figured he might be sick or have just taken a day off.  Apparently he had knee surgery.  Yesterday he was at Subway at lunch barely limping, according to BASFNB's brother in law.  Today he's gone. 

 

Which reminds me, at the ripe old age of 45 I need to set up a will.   Never know when our time here is done.

[Bighanded 1,235]

sad to hear...and yes, don't take your youth for granted.

 

my dad, at age 49, got up on a Friday morning to drive to work as usual. Realized he was having a heart attack on the way, turned around and drove himself to the hospital with a myocardial infarction.  3 days later he was dead..and brother, 49 is way too young.

I'm about to turn 65 and seem to be taking after my mom's side of the family, so hopefully I'll be around for a while yet to support my family and love on the kids/grands.

 

All my adult kids have enough and reasonable personal/home defense tools. But ol Pop here is the official go-to for training, advice, etc. And they are all looking forward to inheriting the various items here when that time comes. No libs in my bunch.

I've made sure they have all, including my wife, and my daughters, learned the manual of arms for the various platforms I have...be it a simple 12ga pump, or an AR platform.

There will be some surprises though, as there are a few items here that no one knows about.

[WonderMonkey 719]

I get LE rounds (and prices) so I've been able to keep a certain amount of stock.  The LE rounds haven't been AS jacked up as the rest, which is nice.

[LedFTed 1,127]

On 8/24/2021 at 4:32 PM, Bighanded said:

sad to hear...and yes, don't take your youth for granted.

 

my dad, at age 49, got up on a Friday morning to drive to work as usual. Realized he was having a heart attack on the way, turned around and drove himself to the hospital with a myocardial infarction.  3 days later he was dead..and brother, 49 is way too young.

I'm about to turn 65 and seem to be taking after my mom's side of the family, so hopefully I'll be around for a while yet to support my family and love on the kids/grands.

 

All my adult kids have enough and reasonable personal/home defense tools. But ol Pop here is the official go-to for training, advice, etc. And they are all looking forward to inheriting the various items here when that time comes. No libs in my bunch.

I've made sure they have all, including my wife, and my daughters, learned the manual of arms for the various platforms I have...be it a simple 12ga pump, or an AR platform.

There will be some surprises though, as there are a few items here that no one knows about.

66, now an had 2 major strokes, 2 minor. still hanging on. in my late 50's, when the major 1's hit. still working on that. Oh Well!!. been 21 years. never give up.. 2010 was when major strokes hit..

get ultra sound of your heart, an the veins in your neck. it might prevent some things. both heart attack, an stroke, can happen at any age. dont matter how old ya are. even family history aint a clue. my family history, dont include strokes. i'm the 1st. hope im the last. never know when the dormant gene, gets ya.

 

[Bighanded 1,235]

On 9/11/2021 at 11:42 PM, WonderMonkey said:

I get LE rounds (and prices) so I've been able to keep a certain amount of stock.  The LE rounds haven't been AS jacked up as the rest, which is nice.

same here. It's the only reason I've made any ammo purchases since the covid panic kicked in.

most big box stores in my area have zero ammo, what little they get (Cabellas for example) is stored behind the counter, with very tight box/customer limits and the prices are as high as any gunbroker rates i've seen.

Best my local shop has done is a 1 box limit of 9mm plain box for $27.

 

my cop shop 2 months back had 13 cases of PMC brass 9mm. Their retail on the shelves was $27 with no limits. A bit of friendly conversation and they told me I could have as many of the cases as I wanted for $16/box of 50.  Had my retired LEO bud with me. I bought a case, he bought a case and we took a third case to break into smaller lots for several friends that we met at the range 2 days later.. all was spoken for immediately.

no, $16 is not a good price by old standards, but it's a fair price in today's climate and it allowed us to do some more , much needed, trigger time without dipping into the reserves.

 

my 45acp stuff is pretty much still shuttered as it's just too pricey. Did run a couple mags through one of the 1911s last weekend. But most drills we still run just 22lr and then step up to 9mm for a half dozen mags. My Sig M18 is a 21rd, but I also have the 17rd  for it. Either way, I typically only take 3 boxes of 50 to the range with me. When that's gone, it's time to go home.

 

I was a bit disappointed last month when I pulled the Sig into play. The gun was fine, it was me that had lost ground due to lack of practice. Couple mags later I had corrected my trigger issues and groups were getting tight again. so, yes, painful as current prices are...it's important to keep the skills up best we can.

 

Also did a small amount of 100yd bench with an old 1995 Colt AR15 (yes, post ban bolt and block) but still a sweet , quality rifle to shoot. Not my grab n go AR, but a fun piece of history, that makes 100yds stupid easy. In fact , setup as a service rifle, I had to adjust the scope cause the handle sights don't even get started below 200. Anyway, talking ammo... it was an enjoyable morning to be tossing rounds down range and not fretting over inventory.

 

btw: WonderMonkey...if you are LEO (in whatever form)..you have my thanks..my support. My daily wear ball cap has a thin blue lines flag patch proudly displayed for my locals to see.

I'll likely get sucker punched one day for wearing it, but if that's the price..then fine.

 

 

[WonderMonkey 719]

55 minutes ago, Bighanded said:

btw: WonderMonkey...if you are LEO (in whatever form)..you have my thanks..my support. My daily wear ball cap has a thin blue lines flag patch proudly displayed for my locals to see.

I'll likely get sucker punched one day for wearing it, but if that's the price..then fine.

 

I appreciate that but I'm not LEO.  I am former military, current SAR (Search & Rescue) and have consulted with our town on sniper tactics enough to convince them they had to engage with the nearby larger town for resources and get a few of their people at least qualified when the bottom of the barrel is reached.  Don't think *I* am that bottom of the barrel (but I would be, if needed).  From all that, I get LE rounds and other things that won't get them in trouble.

 

As far as being sucker punched, I'd gladly take it also if it would make some communist or socialist mad enough to take a swing.

[jeepwm69 7,601]

I loved the ban era AR's.  It just showed how stupid the gun grabbers were when they defined an "assault rifle" by cosmetic attributes.

 

When they screech "High powered" that cracks me up as well, since the old farts like Dad call it a "mouse gun" and mock anything smaller than a 7.62 in a military rifle.

 

With the EO on Russian ammo, doesn't look like shooting is going to be affordable any time soon. 

 

The scum running the country are throwing down all their cards.  Will be interesting to see if they keep any support aside from the true believers. 

[Bighanded 1,235]

2 hours ago, WonderMonkey said:

 

I appreciate that but I'm not LEO.  I am former military, current SAR (Search & Rescue) and have consulted with our town on sniper tactics enough to convince them they had to engage with the nearby larger town for resources and get a few of their people at least qualified when the bottom of the barrel is reached.  Don't think *I* am that bottom of the barrel (but I would be, if needed).  From all that, I get LE rounds and other things that won't get them in trouble.

 

As far as being sucker punched, I'd gladly take it also if it would make some communist or socialist mad enough to take a swing.

yeah...several generations of LEO in my family (uncles). close friends in our local have allowed me to get some advanced training, including some time under our county SWAT SGT.  I had to work hard to earn my slot on that course. Sheriff asked me if I wanted to join as a reservist, but I have a full time job and a side business...no spare time whatsover. Anyway, the cop shop has quietly sold me some "product" (M&P) in the past at LEO pricing and even if I couldn't get it, couple FFL/retired county guys would make it happen. That's how the ammo comes around at a decent price when they get some in.  I'm waiting on more 223/5.56 right now. Couple thousand rounds here at the house, but...looks like price and supply will be stuck for a while yet, so I figure why not get some if I can at a LE price.

[Bighanded 1,235]

yeah Jeep.. I do have a later model Armalite AR10.. I prefer the 7.62 in a "battle platform". But I also grabbed a deal a couple years back on the S&W M&P2  in 5.56. Nice, lightweight and reliable carbine...better for CQB. 

The old Colt was on a whim...guy's dad passed away and he doesn't much care for the older Colts..takes too much to alter them for dress-up...accessorizing.

 

some things though...are best left simple.  While the ban model Colts do have that stupid sear block and the shaved bolt to be able to clear the block, the balance of the gun is still a high quality rifle. ( and of course no bayo lug..oh my!!)   It does have the grab handle mount with a nikon scope on it, but really those handle dual sights are still the way to go as long as the old eyes can see. It's as close to a true service rifle as a boy could get.  Very accurate, a joy to shoot, and dead nuts reliable.

So, no, not my first grab from the closet if I had a fight to join, but I like still being able to purchase (legally) product like this without the FFL documentation should that ever matter some day. And it came at a price that I could tolerate.

[jeepwm69 7,601]

1 hour ago, Bighanded said:

yeah Jeep.. I do have a later model Armalite AR10.. I prefer the 7.62 in a "battle platform". But I also grabbed a deal a couple years back on the S&W M&P2  in 5.56. Nice, lightweight and reliable carbine...better for CQB. 

The old Colt was on a whim...guy's dad passed away and he doesn't much care for the older Colts..takes too much to alter them for dress-up...accessorizing.

 

some things though...are best left simple.  While the ban model Colts do have that stupid sear block and the shaved bolt to be able to clear the block, the balance of the gun is still a high quality rifle. ( and of course no bayo lug..oh my!!)   It does have the grab handle mount with a nikon scope on it, but really those handle dual sights are still the way to go as long as the old eyes can see. It's as close to a true service rifle as a boy could get.  Very accurate, a joy to shoot, and dead nuts reliable.

So, no, not my first grab from the closet if I had a fight to join, but I like still being able to purchase (legally) product like this without the FFL documentation should that ever matter some day. And it came at a price that I could tolerate.

 The Colt 6600 was the one I lusted after for my entire teen years.  I wanted to be able to shoot service matches with it.   OG 20" A2's are great

 

I wasn't poking fun at the ban-era guns, just the politicians who banned things that were easily removed.   "The thing that goes up...."

 

I'll stick to the right arm of the free world for 7.62.  I picked up an Imbel kit really cheap about 15 years ago when they were everywhere.  Finally put it together a couple of months ago.

[Bighanded 1,235]

LOL..."the thing that goes up..."   

nice piece of gear ya got on that table!!!

yeah, my latest acquisition is a 1995 Match Target HBAR 20" . All original in green furniture. His son says it might have 600rds through it and it is like new. His dad pulled the cheaper scope that came with it and dropped a nikon P223 BDC on there.  I have several of the nikon P series and think well of them so I was happy that it's on there. Included with the deal basically for free..so that was another $200ish at the going used rate for those. STill had the strap and the original tools in pouch in the rear hatch of the stock... The son was actually surprised when I went for the latch... he didn't realize that was there.

 

I've even got a 50cal can of the old greentip 65gr ammo that the 1:7 twist is supposed to be happier with. Guys with contemporary AR15s (1:9/1:10)  complain about the 855 stuff, but this rifle was made to eat that I believe.

 

anyway, yeah, I never intend to convert anything to select fire, and this , as it is, is a well made rifle that I'll be happy to hand down to my children...in the meantime, it's fun to test myself on that handle sight system. i just don't have range longer than 400yards available to me.

[jeepwm69 7,601]

32 minutes ago, Bighanded said:

LOL..."the thing that goes up..."   

nice piece of gear ya got on that table!!!

yeah, my latest acquisition is a 1995 Match Target HBAR 20" . All original in green furniture. His son says it might have 600rds through it and it is like new. His dad pulled the cheaper scope that came with it and dropped a nikon P223 BDC on there.  I have several of the nikon P series and think well of them so I was happy that it's on there. Included with the deal basically for free..so that was another $200ish at the going used rate for those. STill had the strap and the original tools in pouch in the rear hatch of the stock... The son was actually surprised when I went for the latch... he didn't realize that was there.

 

I've even got a 50cal can of the old greentip 65gr ammo that the 1:7 twist is supposed to be happier with. Guys with contemporary AR15s (1:9/1:10)  complain about the 855 stuff, but this rifle was made to eat that I believe.

 

anyway, yeah, I never intend to convert anything to select fire, and this , as it is, is a well made rifle that I'll be happy to hand down to my children...in the meantime, it's fun to test myself on that handle sight system. i just don't have range longer than 400yards available to me.

 

Oh no select fire for me either.  Just wastes ammo lol.  

 

My friend who just passed away (from the clot shot I suspect) had a lot of Class III stuff back when I was younger.   Of course, that stuff is horribly expensive now, and he sold his to buy a lake house probably 20 years ago.  The stuff was fun to shoot, but there are a lot of other things I would buy if I wanted "Ridiculously expensive toys with no real utility".  Just feeding one now is cost prohibitive, not even bringing in the $xx,xxx price tag to get one and the NFA paperwork involved.

 

The ban era stuff I was poking fun at are the "no flash hider, no bayonet lug" as if those make things mass killing machines.  Stupid politicians.

[Bighanded 1,235]

friend pinged me yesterday.His dad passed away.. he was more than amazed to learn of all the guns and ammo that his dad has stashed.

I have purchased the Colt AR off of him, so he reached out to me to let me know he had come across a little over 1,000 rds of 223 for it.  He's trying to be fair and is asking pretty much market price for brass range quality ammo  $450 for the 1,000rds.   I don't actually "need" the ammo, but I don't see prices coming down much anytime soon, and this purchase doesn't include sales tax, etc.  

I'm definitely on the ledge on this one. I've never paid this kind of  $ for ammo, but I also realize it is a new day and unlike waiting for a school shooting market panic to calm down, this current state of affairs could run a long long time.

On one hand, I like having the cash tucked away and at my age, even if we get into a shooting fight, I'll not survive my current inventory. So I guess this same ammo would surface yet again after another old man passes away (me) and my kids are standing at the door to my closet also amazed at what they find.

 

so, opinions. Should I grab this case?  Mind you, I am already sitting on a couple other thousand of that caliber,so it's not like I'm not prepared already.