Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) Goober suggested I check this site out. Got this bike no run and no roll, dragged in reverse a bit and broke the seized rear drum, added a battery and cleaned the carb which was the worst I've ever seen, ever, blasted some starter fluid and was doing doughnuts in the front lawn in seconds 🙂 smoked a bit though at high rpm but sent it for 2 weeks anyways, thing had zero lack of power unreal for its age. Had it on the lift for new brakes all around which btw 00-03 rancher brakes for the front are compatible, I went to start and nuthing but a weird crunchy noise (timing chain slipping) so I tear her apart and all valves are bent pretty bad, so new valves (seated with grind paste) new chain, new oil filter and sparkplug, even swapped out the front and rear diff oil that was beat. Thing runs like a champ now except it still smokes a bit at high rpms, when I took it apart I thought the sleeve looked clean with no scratching but the rings seemed a bit loose(measuring tool battery was dead) so maybe the rubber/plastic boots around the valvestems might be letting oil past idk Edited December 9, 2021 by Kibblesnbits Typos 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBRider   1,411 Posted December 9, 2021 Nice tank  Welcome to the site Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69   7,750 Posted December 10, 2021 Welcome aboard. We have a few "tank" aficionados here.  @shadetree, @Goober, and @DuckOfDeath Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wormy   60 Posted December 10, 2021 Welcome! Very cool looking machine!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles   20,147 Posted December 10, 2021 The chain must have been really loose and beating around wildly to cause that damage ----------  I think the 350 engine is built the same way as the  300s , the crankshaft timing gear / sprocket is machined on the crank and not replaceable , I had an engine with a bad timing chain gear and it ate a couple of timing chains up before I figured  out what was causing it , 100 hours or less and the timing chain was gone , took another  crank to fix that  ----- you can take a new chain and wrap it around the gear to check how the chain fits to the teeth , it will look something like , the first 2-3 teeth fit ok and the 4 will not line up properly , cause the teeth get worn out of timing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: The chain must have been really loose and beating around wildly to cause that damage ----------  I think the 350 engine is built the same way as the  300s , the crankshaft timing gear / sprocket is machined on the crank and not replaceable , I had an engine with a bad timing chain gear and it ate a couple of timing chains up before I figured  out what was causing it , 100 hours or less and the timing chain was gone , took another  crank to fix that  ----- you can take a new chain and wrap it around the gear to check how the chain fits to the teeth , it will look something like , the first 2-3 teeth fit ok and the 4 will not line up properly , cause the teeth get worn out of timing It mad no noise or indication that there was an issue till I went to start it after pulling it up on the lift and redoing all the brakes (minus lines, pretty sure I need those to) it coughed and lost all compression while also amking an odd grinding noise(Chain slipping) so it happened under power from the starter not the engine so I got lucky. So If I have this problem again in the next year I guess I need a new crank, thank you. Any chance you've done the brake mod that gives you sudo locking diffs by chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, jeepwm69 said: Welcome aboard. We have a few "tank" aficionados here.  @shadetree, @Goober, and @DuckOfDeath Second person to call it a tank lol and I like hearing that but other than being a honda whats the redeeming qualities? The solid axles? Cause looking around and I feel it's the only quad out their ive seen that has them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles   20,147 Posted December 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Kibblesnbits said: It mad no noise or indication that there was an issue till I went to start it after pulling it up on the lift and redoing all the brakes (minus lines, pretty sure I need those to) it coughed and lost all compression while also amking an odd grinding noise(Chain slipping) so it happened under power from the starter not the engine so I got lucky. So If I have this problem again in the next year I guess I need a new crank, thank you. Any chance you've done the brake mod that gives you sudo locking diffs by chance? Nope , never heard of sudo lock , but have added shims to 300 and 450 front diffs  The best thing of the 350A and D is the rear end , it is one of the best designs for a straight axle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: Nope , never heard of sudo lock , but have added shims to 300 and 450 front diffs  The best thing of the 350A and D is the rear end , it is one of the best designs for a straight axle Awesome. I'll have to take a closer look at it. The sudden lock is basically you install a second brake lever/master cylinder on the left and and run a strait line from each lever to its respective front brake and when ever only one tire spins you grab a bit of brake for that tire so the diff transfers the power to the other tire and both will spin, watched someone online crawl around a swamp pretty effectively with it. What did the shims do for you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69   7,750 Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Kibblesnbits said: Awesome. I'll have to take a closer look at it. The sudden lock is basically you install a second brake lever/master cylinder on the left and and run a strait line from each lever to its respective front brake and when ever only one tire spins you grab a bit of brake for that tire so the diff transfers the power to the other tire and both will spin, watched someone online crawl around a swamp pretty effectively with it. What did the shims do for you?  Washers lock the spider gears together.  Both front wheels pull.  Horrible if you’re not going in a straight line though. Makes steering really tough.  It’s like adding a spool to a truck/jeep 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goober   1,555 Posted December 11, 2021 I like them because they are simple and tough—except for the fuel system—but I appreciate how designers were try to keep the CG low in the frame. And they’re heavy. no fuel gauge, speedo, gear indicator. The only rig that’s simpler is the TRX300.  Those solid axles will wear you out on a rocky stretch though—that machine will make you pay—but I’ve always had good times on it. I don’t hot rod it though because new parts are hard to get.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Goober said: I like them because they are simple and tough—except for the fuel system—but I appreciate how designers were try to keep the CG low in the frame. And they’re heavy. no fuel gauge, speedo, gear indicator. The only rig that’s simpler is the TRX300.  Those solid axles will wear you out on a rocky stretch though—that machine will make you pay—but I’ve always had good times on it. I don’t hot rod it though because new parts are hard to get.  Thanks for sending me here goober, I crawl around in mud around cornfields, never had it above 3rd lol, I love simplicity, less things to break) and yes it IS a workout but ill probably never upgrade. Infact I'll be keeping an eye for another one cause my brother is dissapointed by his polaris 400 4x4 2stroke, I might just keep buying them and build a whole fleet since fixing small engines has really developed into a hobby for me and after getting 5-6 different models running the hondas are where its at. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree   5,973 Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 10:41 AM, Kibblesnbits said: Thanks for sending me here goober, I crawl around in mud around cornfields, never had it above 3rd lol, I love simplicity, less things to break) and yes it IS a workout but ill probably never upgrade. Infact I'll be keeping an eye for another one cause my brother is dissapointed by his polaris 400 4x4 2stroke, I might just keep buying them and build a whole fleet since fixing small engines has really developed into a hobby for me and after getting 5-6 different models running the hondas are where its at. welcome. my first 1989 trx350D foreman 4x4 ( that is still in my yard ! ) will never be sold !. this is where it all started with my hobby ( 30 yrs ago ! ). i've had my hands on a lot of these models...and i'm here to tell ya..they are tanks !. with that said, they also require parts..and new parts are being harder and harder to locate !. and when you do find new parts ?, YOU BETTER HAVE DEEP POCKETS !..LOL. do yourself a huge favor..don't go messing with a good design, by this..i mean keep it simple on upgrades. leave the front end alone..it was designed the way it is for a reason, its called limited slip..and this will make it alot easier to ride in tough spots. DON'T GO LIFTING IT..AT ALL !. the front swing arm can only swing so much, after the point of no return, you run the risk of tearing up the fenders from to large of tires ?, or tearing up the drive line ?, trust me..drive lines for these are getting VERY hard to find these days !. you can put 25x8x12 tires on the front, and 25x10x12 tires/rims on the rear..WITHOUT A LIFT KIT !. my '89 trx350D foreman 4x4 has this on it right now, no issues at all !. you will have to move the foot guards from rear fender up further to clear the tires ?, but its not much. i have a thread in the brake section ?, or the custom section ?, where i put a high lifter disk brake kit on the front. you can also use atv super brake disk kit as well ( seems high lifter is putting china parts in their kits now ! ), you will need some 1/4 steel plate for spacers for the mounting brackets, you will also need a trx420 front brake master cylinder, the factory master cylinder will NOT work with disk brake kits. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 14, 2021 15 hours ago, shadetree said: welcome. my first 1989 trx350D foreman 4x4 ( that is still in my yard ! ) will never be sold !. this is where it all started with my hobby ( 30 yrs ago ! ). i've had my hands on a lot of these models...and i'm here to tell ya..they are tanks !. with that said, they also require parts..and new parts are being harder and harder to locate !. and when you do find new parts ?, YOU BETTER HAVE DEEP POCKETS !..LOL. do yourself a huge favor..don't go messing with a good design, by this..i mean keep it simple on upgrades. leave the front end alone..it was designed the way it is for a reason, its called limited slip..and this will make it alot easier to ride in tough spots. DON'T GO LIFTING IT..AT ALL !. the front swing arm can only swing so much, after the point of no return, you run the risk of tearing up the fenders from to large of tires ?, or tearing up the drive line ?, trust me..drive lines for these are getting VERY hard to find these days !. you can put 25x8x12 tires on the front, and 25x10x12 tires/rims on the rear..WITHOUT A LIFT KIT !. my '89 trx350D foreman 4x4 has this on it right now, no issues at all !. you will have to move the foot guards from rear fender up further to clear the tires ?, but its not much. i have a thread in the brake section ?, or the custom section ?, where i put a high lifter disk brake kit on the front. you can also use atv super brake disk kit as well ( seems high lifter is putting china parts in their kits now ! ), you will need some 1/4 steel plate for spacers for the mounting brackets, you will also need a trx420 front brake master cylinder, the factory master cylinder will NOT work with disk brake kits. Well you just saved me alot of time and effort thanks, I welded a plate inside the frame on the front for a winch but that's it for modding as I'd like to keep her as is since she performs so well except that I'm adding a heated thumb lever cover and maybe some heated handgrip, also adding a second brake lever on the left so I can control the brakes in front individually to sudo lock diffs when one is spinning and the other aint. After getting it all back together I found that finding TDC was easier to do it manually by sliding something down inside the sparkplug hole and noticed that non of the lines marking TDC lined up when piston was at max height, lines were off by a half inch or so weird right? I'm looking at tires the last couple of days because I'm pretty sure it still has its original tires, turning in the snow is nonexistent lol, im looking at the k9 kingsville 24x9x11 or Cordova mudcats 25x9x11. I saw that post about adding disc brakes to the front, absolutely amazing write up and will do the swap when these new brakes are done. Just found an 86 fourtrax that's looks like he'll but owner says it runs and needs nothing (believable but doubt) 800 bucks might snatch it up if it's still around after the holidays, thanks again goober 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goober   1,555 Posted December 14, 2021 Glad you’re here. members here really know these machines. You have stockers, modders and mudders.  If you’re interested in powering accessories there’s a weatherproof 12vdc plug below the handlebar cover, right side. Picture of one from a later model.  TDC is easy to find without sticking anything into the plug hole. Pull plug and valve covers, rotate engine counterclockwise (manual incorrectly says CW), watch intake valves open and, as soon as they close look for timing mark.  Tires. I prefer ITP Mud Lite AT and Carlisle AT489    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Goober said: Glad you’re here. members here really know these machines. You have stockers, modders and mudders.  If you’re interested in powering accessories there’s a weatherproof 12vdc plug below the handlebar cover, right side. Picture of one from a later model.  TDC is easy to find without sticking anything into the plug hole. Pull plug and valve covers, rotate engine counterclockwise (manual incorrectly says CW), watch intake valves open and, as soon as they close look for timing mark.  Tires. I prefer ITP Mud Lite AT and Carlisle AT489    I'll have to try that thanks. I was wondering what the ! that thing was, awesome. The plastics on the red one is mint wth, a new set of plastics cost more than I paid for my whole rig lol and those mudlights look pretty sweet, I just want a bit more tread myself. I would like to illuminate my yellow lights but both my bulbs are missing and the manual had it labeled number 3 but I couldn't find the reference chart, any chance you can point me in the right direction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goober   1,555 Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Use the oem parts finder at Rocky Mountain atv and Partzilla. Get part numbers.  Used harnesses available from power sports nation. oh yeah you have 87 model. Most likely same part number but check it out Edited December 14, 2021 by Goober Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Goober said: Use the oem parts finder at Rocky Mountain atv and Partzilla. Get part numbers.  Used harnesses available from power sports nation. oh yeah you have 87 model. Most likely same part number but check it out My hero, ill be bookmarking that site now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goober   1,555 Posted December 14, 2021 Thanks yw. everything I know about atvs I learned from the members here. 😎 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69   7,750 Posted December 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Kibblesnbits said: I'll have to try that thanks. I was wondering what the ! that thing was, awesome. The plastics on the red one is mint wth, a new set of plastics cost more than I paid for my whole rig lol and those mudlights look pretty sweet, I just want a bit more tread myself. I would like to illuminate my yellow lights but both my bulbs are missing and the manual had it labeled number 3 but I couldn't find the reference chart, any chance you can point me in the right direction  They make a Maxxis Mudbug in 25x10x11. My favorite tire. Have them on 5 different ATV's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, jeepwm69 said:  They make a Maxxis Mudbug in 25x10x11. My favorite tire. Have them on 5 different ATV's. Oh snap those are awesome, now I'm torn, wonder how those will look on my 11x7 rims lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69   7,750 Posted December 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kibblesnbits said: Oh snap those are awesome, now I'm torn, wonder how those will look on my 11x7 rims lol  I have 26x10x12's on my 12x6 wheels, and 26x12x12's on my 12x7 wheels. They'll work fine on your wheels.  Also have 27x10x12's on 12x6, and 27x12x12 on 12x7's  and 28x10x12 on 12x6 and 28x12x12 on 12x7 wheels.  I have a couple of 350's like yours and have been torn on keeping the 11" wheels and running 25" Mudbugs, or swapping a disc conversion on the front, and running 26's on 12" wheels.  Keep in mind if you do the disc brake conversion you'll have to run 12" wheels up front, so if you're planning the disc conversion you'll need to buy 12" wheels and tires to fit them (you don't want to buy new tires for 11" wheels that won't work with disc brakes if you're planning on a disc swap)   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree   5,973 Posted December 15, 2021 17 hours ago, jeepwm69 said:  They make a Maxxis Mudbug in 25x10x11. My favorite tire. Have them on 5 different ATV's. he can't ( or shall i say , shouldn't ? ) run anything larger than 25's on this atv, least not without rubbing fenders without a lift kit ?, and lift kits on these do not work well over time. i had to mod the rear fender on my '89 trx350d, 25's were to big, would rub the inner rear fender, had to move the foot guard forward..remember ?. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goober   1,555 Posted December 15, 2021 Stock rubber best for these. No ride or clearance problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kibblesnbits   9 Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, shadetree said: he can't ( or shall i say , shouldn't ? ) run anything larger than 25's on this atv, least not without rubbing fenders without a lift kit ?, and lift kits on these do not work well over time. i had to mod the rear fender on my '89 trx350d, 25's were to big, would rub the inner rear fender, had to move the foot guard forward..remember ?. How did you go about moving the rear foot guards forward? Those mud bugs look right up my alley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites