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Can someone please explain to me how the two wires from the IAT are G/O (B2) and Gr/Bu (B20) on the gray pcm connector. I'm not seeing it on my model wiring diagram. It looks to me like the G/O tie in to P/Bu and go to the middle pcm connector. I did find what melatv asked me to check but it is confusing me

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The reading on the IAT & ECT are higher than the manual --- section 6 --page 6-26 --you may have take the reading right at the sensor.

 

The G/O has no connection to the P/Bu wire that P/Bu #1 gear

 

The picture shows what (B2) means

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Hey melatv. I never got the notification from your reply. Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. That's a different diagram than I'm looking at. I'll test it closer to the sensor

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Are these the IAT and ECT sensors?  Beside the spark plug and on front side of air filter box

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I just realized you gave me the page in the manual. I'm looking now

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Question. On step #2, when it says add the jumper, do I test the jumper itself for voltage?

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I put a jumper in the 2 pin iat connector and put the lead on the jumper and it reads 0.008V. I then went to step 3 and it reads 2.9 kilo ohms

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Yes you have the right places for the ECT & IAT 

Yes you test the jumper -- you had the gray connector plug in to the PCM when you check for zero  -- if so both reading are good.

 

Now if you haven't tested the ECT go to section 6 page 6 - 21 -- steps 1&2 you can do -- without special connectors

 

These tests are only for checking the sensors ---  your bike is showing no codes?

 

With the CKP it's should be okay --but the only way to test it is with a Peak Voltage Adapter -- 0.7 volts -- without that 0.7 volts and the bike turn over good the bike will never start.

 

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Thank you. No it's not showing any codes. The only light is the neutral light and its steady, no flashing. I'll check the ECT and see what I can do about a peak voltage tester 

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If you have a analog meter (one with a needle) you can put in on the AC scale and the needle will fluctuate the needle indicating voltage

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I sure don't. Il see about buying a peak voltage tester. 

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Try this plug everything back in turn key on -- don't push the start button -- take a screw driver and place it across the 2 big studs of the starter solenoid or just remove the big wire on the solenoid going to starter motor and touch on the stud with the wire on it.

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I tried and it would turn over but not start. I'm not getting close to 5V on the ECT or IAT. you think the pcm could be bad?

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Well crap, my bad, the pcm was unplugged when I checked them. I am getting 5V on both of them 

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5 VDC  is good -- both when unplugged read about the same Kohms? 

PCM/ECM -- sounds like it's okay because the Neutral comes on.

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Yes, they both read a little over 3 kilo ohms 

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52 minutes ago, Louis said:

Yes, they both read a little over 3 kilo ohms 

Are you taking the reading at the sensors and at gray connector?? 

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Yes, I ohmed both sensors at the pcm gray connector first then at the sensors. They all read a little over 3 kohms

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51 minutes ago, Louis said:

Yes, I ohmed both sensors at the pcm gray connector first then at the sensors. They all read a little over 3 kohms

Okay

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Melatv, if the ignition coil was bad would it prevent the fuel pump from priming?

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Nevermind, I remember there's a voltage drop when trying to turn over

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6 hours ago, Melatv said:

Try this plug everything back in turn key on -- don't push the start button -- take a screw driver and place it across the 2 big studs of the starter solenoid or just remove the big wire on the solenoid going to starter motor and touch on the stud with the wire on it.

I know you tried this days ago -- but now with unplugging things -- get voltages -- Ohms checks -- try the above again

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Hey melatv, I tried that again and still the same thing. It'll turn over but won't start. I ordered a used but tested oem ckp/alternator for $27. I'm gonna change that out and see what happens 

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