Melatv 788 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Hi Louis: Here a video that may help you https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=install+stator+0n+honda+trx420+video&view=detail&mid=19D46BC37BB9B89DBD2019D46BC37BB9B89DBD20&FORM=VIRE When you take the bolts out -- use piece a cardboard and draw a out line of the bolt placement and punch holes in cardboard where the bolt go and set bolts in them. Edited March 20, 2020 by Melatv 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted March 20, 2020 Alright, will do. I appreciate that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melatv 788 Posted March 21, 2020 Before you go doing all that -- I would get a Peak Voltage Adapter for the meter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted March 24, 2020 Yeah, there's a lot more to this than that video shows. I had to take the swing arm loose in the rear to remove the axle. I can't get the starter off or the front shaft and without removing them I won't have room to take the cover off. Wish I had full coverage I'd burn this piece of junk lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,882 Posted March 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Louis said: Yeah, there's a lot more to this than that video shows. I had to take the swing arm loose in the rear to remove the axle. I can't get the starter off or the front shaft and without removing them I won't have room to take the cover off. Wish I had full coverage I'd burn this piece of junk lol after you get insurance on it, then burn it, i'll sell you a completely restored, manual shift '88 trx350D, that needs nothing but a rider !..lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melatv 788 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Louis said: Yeah, there's a lot more to this than that video shows. I had to take the swing arm loose in the rear to remove the axle. I can't get the starter off or the front shaft and without removing them I won't have room to take the cover off. Wish I had full coverage I'd burn this piece of junk lol It's not a easy working on ATV or others like SxS if it;s first time thing for you --- you may go through replacing the CKP -- finding it was not the problem -- using a Peak Voltage Adapter would tell you if the CKP is good -- also the PVA is needed to check the voltage at the ign. coil for a 100 volts Edited March 25, 2020 by Melatv 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted March 25, 2020 Yeah I know lol. I knew it was taking a chance. I'm just tired of testing and I'm ready to start replacing !. I was going to take it to a shop but after all that you and others have had me try, I don't trust they would know the problem right off and would cost mean arm and a leg once its said and done so I decided to do it myself. For the price of the peak voltage tester I figured I'd might as well buy the part. I knew it would be a job but it was a little more than I thought. I did get it off and replaced. I'm in the process of putting it back together now. I do like that I've learned through the process. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted March 27, 2020 Well, I swapped out the alternator successfully and to no surprise the fuel pump still isn't priming and still not getting fire. I'm glad to rule that out though. You think it may be the wiring harness or are there still other possible issues? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,882 Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 10:27 AM, Louis said: Well, I swapped out the alternator successfully and to no surprise the fuel pump still isn't priming and still not getting fire. I'm glad to rule that out though. You think it may be the wiring harness or are there still other possible issues? i don't recall if this has been tested by you or not ?, and i do not even know if it can be done ? ( surely it can ? ), but have you tried hooking 12 volts, say from directly from the battery, or a car battery straight to the fuel pump, and see if it works that way ?, at least it will rule out if the pump is even good ?!. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 5, 2020 Hey shade tree, I just now saw you replied. I have ran a wire straight to the fuel pump and it did run but the four wheeler still wouldn't start. I'm not really sure where to go from here so I'm just starting to replace parts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 6, 2020 Hey guys, question please. I figured I'd test the fuel pump/engine stop relay again since I replaced the stator. When I tested it, the engine stop ohmed good but the fuel pump side didnt. I had a spare so I tried it. Before I plugged it in, I tested it and both sides ohmed good and when I connected it to the battery it would click. After I tried it (still wouldn't prime), I tested it again and it wouldn't click when connecting it to the battery and when ohming it it wasn't reading 0.00 anymore. It would read 0.1 or 0.2. So is it being shorted out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retro 4,048 Posted April 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Louis said: Before I plugged it in, I tested it and both sides ohmed good and when I connected it to the battery it would click. After I tried it (still wouldn't prime), I tested it again and it wouldn't click when connecting it to the battery and when ohming it it wasn't reading 0.00 anymore. It would read 0.1 or 0.2. So is it being shorted out? Let me take a guess.... cheap china fuel pump on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 6, 2020 So you think the fuel pump is shorting the relay out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retro 4,048 Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Louis said: Yes it is lol OMG. no comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retro 4,048 Posted April 6, 2020 Look for melted wiring between the phony pump and relay too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 6, 2020 I'm at work now. So you think the fuel pump is requiring too much voltage and is shorting the relay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melatv 788 Posted April 6, 2020 Hi: Like I have said before if the CKP doesn't supply the 0.7 VAC to the PCM -- you will not get spark -- fuel pump will not run -- fuel injector will not function. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 7, 2020 Melatv, I believe the ckp tested to be good but I'll check it again to be sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 7, 2020 Nevermind, that's the one you said check with the peak voltage adapter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) But I did just replace it Edited April 7, 2020 by Louis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melatv 788 Posted April 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Louis said: But I did just replace it How are you and me going to know if it's good???? ---- PVA is the answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louis 14 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) For anyone that's wondering what the problem ended up being, it was the pcm. Edited June 25, 2020 by Louis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,601 Posted June 25, 2020 Thanks for coming back and posting the resolution. Might help someone out in the future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites