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got it back together and resealed gonna ride this weekend to make sure it’s good. Got a big trip in Tennessee at the end of the month at ride royal blue looking forward to it

13 hours ago, toodeep said:

Sometimes the shaft will wear a groove in it. The seal should be flat against the case surface when drove in all the way. Even with using protective measures on the output shaft it's possible to knock the spring loose on the seal and without that little tension it will leak.

After taking down it back apart I see what I did, I didnt put a little grease to help it slide on smoothly so it’s bunched up will post photos. Hopefully so no one else makes the same mistake.

12 minutes ago, Fishfiles said:

Maybe the seal was damaged when installed. Maybe it was put in backwards.  ——-  Seen 450s bend the output shaft.  Never had it happen to me.  But have a homemade tool from a guy I got a lot of parts from.  And he told me he used it to straighten output shafts 

I put the new seal in the Grooved side with the spring facing forwards into the crankcase cover and smoothed side facing out towards drive safe. I got a few things to do before I can work on it today I’m gonna try to take some photos of current situation hopefully can get some help. I’m pretty sure I didn’t damage the seal, I wonder if I didn’t get it in deep enough. I used a sock to tap it in lightly wonder if I hit back of the sock when taping and I didn’t get the seal set right 

32 minutes ago, Fishfiles said:

 

 

 

So the seal at E-20 of the top pic , goes to #7 coupler on the bottom pic is where it  is leaking ?  -----  Does  #7 coupler have a groove cut into it where the seal rides ?  

 

 

I would have to take it apart and look at it but it leaking at that seal there. This is before I replaced it and now it seems worse I’ll have to take it back apart to look at it, the grooved part

9 hours ago, Fishfiles said:

Welcome to Atvhonda.  It would help to know your make , model and year.  And if you started your own thread you might get more responses 

2020 Honda rancher 420 4X4 no power steering

On 11/29/2019 at 4:09 PM, toodeep said:

I was replacing a front output shaft seal on a customer machine so I thought I would take a few pics of the process since it's a pretty common issue. I'm hoping everyone keeps their machines cleaner than this one.

 

First thing to do is jack up the front of the machine and remove the front wheels. Then remove the mounting bolts on the front final drive so it can be slid forward. This model has the upper mount that also has to be removed to get enough clearance. You'll have the upper, rear lower and on certain models front mounting bolts and brackets.

 

 

Once that is done you can slide the front final drive forward. Most of the time you can just grab both inner axles and pull it forward. You might have to position the handlebars just right so the tie rod ends clear and also use a pry bar to give it that little extra to get the drive line loose. Once it's forward enough the coupler on the motor side is spring loaded. Slide it forward enough to unhook it from the output shaft and move it to the side or remove it completely.

 

 

Remove the o ring from the shaft and use a pick, old screwdriver, screws or whatever you have to pry the old seal out. 

 

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Once it's removed and everything is cleaned up it's time for the new seal (found under the final shaft section of a parts finder). I have some shrink tubing that I use to protect the seal from the grooves in the shaft when installing it. You don't have to use anything or wrap it with the plastic the seal came in just to take the chance of damaging it away. Find a socket/pipe the size of the outer edge of the seal to use as a driver (you can also use the old seal against the new when installing it to add a level of protection, unless it's really damaged from prying it out).

 

 

Once the new seal it in install the o ring on the output shaft and reinstall everything in reverse order.

 

 
Sorry for my horrible typing and if I didn’t do this correctly 

hey everting so I am new to this forum page stuff and I feel like I’m a pretty well experienced mechanic but also something new to learn. I replaced this seal cause I noticed it was leaking oil and I cleaned it all up and I drove it some today and let my buddy and it’s leaking again. I replaced it Monday and actually drove it a while today. Haven’t checked oil on it but it’s seems worse then before. So what should I check and I pretty much followed everything on this post but didn’t look it up. I pretty much did this procedure step by step. Thank you and if anyone can help I’d appreciate it and is this a common problem with the ranchers