A&M OFFROAD

Okay so today another friend of mine came over and I was tell him about it, and wanted to show him how much it smoked. So I started it and a puff of white smoke came out at first and then nothing else. It was back to black smoke again after about ten mins tho a very light black smoke. The motor noise did sound louder to me but I was also not wearing my helmet so that could be the reason why. I'm going to adjust the valve gaps here in a while after it cools down. Not sure why but I can't get the little covers off where u can adjust the valves, and I figure it's because it's warm still. So I'm gonna let it cool all the way down and see how bad off they Are and maybe that's why it's making so much noise.

😱😱😱 yea not sure if I'm gonna be able to afford those just yet it may be a hot min before I can fix this thing. The guy I bought it from had never changed the oil per say cause it leaked so much. He always had to out oil in it... Which he told me he used his old car motor oil cause he wasn't gonna spend money on replacing the oil all the time! He used jet black oil from his car..... Like wtf 😒 But that's why I got this thing for $500

How are you measuring everything isn't there a tool for that?

Okay that will be my first step then. I'll have to get some of those measurement things. I've needed some for a while now.. I'm thinking I measured the crank the wrong way then. I didn't move it up and down I did it side to side. I probably didn't measure the clearance right. It didn't look like this quad had been tore into before I did it so it could be the original stuff in the bottom end. I mean I don't even know how many owners this thing has has. The previous owner had a stick shoved into the oil res because they broke out the bung to drain the oil. I actual took a picture of the stick today I forgot it was in my drain pan 😂

Thank you! I'll definitely be asking more question than cause this is the first thing I've ever tore into. I have to say it's been fun working on it. In the beginning I think I had more fun working on it than riding it honestly. I still kinda do, just that feeling of doing something my self and not having to have someone else fix it for me. It's like a drug!

Okay so I have done those before! Only time I've done them tho was when I first did the rebuild. So I'm guessing I'll need to go and do them again. And thanks I had no clue what that was but figured it wasn't supposed to move. I was afraid it would blow up on the next go. Do you think I could just order new rings? Like a actual name brand set and do it proper? Or will I have to get a new piston and cylinder. Again thank you so much for your help man I really do appreciate it!

I did replace the seals and it was just the cylinder and piston nothing else. I'm gonna have to do some research cause I don't even know what a valve lash is! But I know I haven't set it. Also when I was doing my new gaskets I noticed a piece on my cam shaft was loose. It was on the chain side there was a loose thing on the shaft. I'll see if I can find any pic. I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I probably need to replace everything in the motor. I know my crank was on the loose end of the tolerance spectrum.

I know for a fact I didn't stagger the rings like I should have, and I realized after I put everything back together and watched a video on it. And I can honestly say did not file ring gaps because I don't even know what that means. I do know I checked the ring gaps and from what I can remember they were in spec or close to it. But it was also like 5 months ago so I can't remember exactly. I've progressively gotten more comfortable on the quad and have steadily rode it harder and harder. I knew I would probably have problems with the china top end but I didn't have alot of money to spend at the time. Even less now with my little one here. I've rode 8 hours on the thing and put 120 miles on it in a day. I thought to it may have been over heating cause I was on a trails today too going pretty slow. When I realized it was smoking I got off the trails and tried to coast down the big hill to help cool it down but the smoke got worse and worse untill I got home and shut it down

Okay so since the last post I've since changed out all the top end gaskets, I've had no leaks at all through the gaskets. The tip of using the copper spray a gasket did the trick and help along with using a name brand gasket kit. So thank you guys for the help. Now, today was the first longer ride I went on since replacing the gaskets we rode for maybe 2 hours. My quad is now smoking like a mofo. It's billowing out. No more black smoke either just pure white smoke. It's obviously the oil because when I got back home I was barely on the dip stick. When I went out it was full! The motor now is also making a louder ticking noise. My buddy say it's the lifters, and that I should adjust them but he's not a mechanic and I know he knows alot but I just wanted to be sure before I tear into this thing again. I feel like because I out a cheap china top end rebuild in it, that is the reason but who knows. Bad rings could be causing the smoke correct? But it wouldn't be causing such a ruckus is the motor. But again this is the first thing I've ever really worked on, so my knowledge is very minimal. Thank you guys so much for the help!

I 100% agree but this ain't mine quad and my buddy traded it for a POS nissan truck. I think he paid maybe $800 for the truck so he ain't gonna spend much money on it if any at all 😂

If this thing don't work I'll let you know and I'll probably get it just to have incase it messes up again

Awesome! That's exactly what we did. We just shoved it down in there. I bought the factory thing so I'll still see if it works. Cause if it came off already I'm not sure how effective it will be

Well I pinned the china clip in as tight as I could. If the stock one fits I'll put it in, if it doesnt I guess I lll just make sure the china pin is shoved even more

Well I order a stock one, it was used and only 7$ so we will see. I had a feeling this was a cheap china carb just by the way it looked and felt. And had no names on it. How does that retainer work then? Do you know?

@SlammedRanger thank you so much! Saved the day again!

So we shoved the ! out of that metal V shaped thing and wedged it in there and it actually started and held up. But I'm gonna go ahead and order that part. Is that the correct one for this thing? I don't understand how it didn't have one in it. The guy he bought it from took it to a shop even and had them fix it, so it makes me wonder if he was lying about it.

Buddy bought an 01 rancher 350. Said it had some carb work done before he bought it. When he got it, it ran great... For two hours then it died. Now when you even give it the slightest amount of throttle it dies. So I took his carb apart to make sure it wasn't clogged. It was pretty clean but the top part is what's blowing my mind here. Now I'm super new to working on stuff but carbs to me sem pretty simple, parts wise. The top of the carb pulls off along with the spring. In the top is the needle valve. Well it was just floating in the top part. Wasn't in the hole or anything just sitting there... I figured that would be the problem. There isn't anything in there tho that would hold it in. Unless I'm just getting confused on how it works can someone please explain? I'll add pictures for reference

Thanks! I really am excited for him to be here. Can't wait to have a riding buddy

I would literally cry if that happened. I had to drilled out a bolt that snapped off in the frame and I'm not kidding it took me like 4 hours to do it. And it was super easily accessible. If that happened I'd have to take the motor back apart and last time I did that I dropped a washer from the head bolts into the hole where the cam chain is.... I had a basically had a heart attack cause I did not wanna crack the whole bottom end open to find it. Cause I've never done that before and I don't have any of the gaskets. But luck was on my side again and I fished it out with a magnet, it took me almost two hours to get it out but I did

I found another nut on the quad that fit it and it worked! I got it off! Thanks for your help! That was my issue is not having access to a welder. I don't have one and since I'm quarantined I can't go out to use my buddy's. But I got it off tho thankfully! So thank you, and I can't wait, we are having a boy! @Fishfiles thanks for the help bud!

Thank you! It's gonna be our first we are super excited! And yea we didn't think anything of it and the Dr told us two weeks before we were supposed to be quarantining that we had to. Which didn't give our work much notice but it worked out in the end. I'm looking right now I gonna try to find another one on my quad and if not I'll move to my car see if I can find anything! Thanks for the help

That's exactly right I'm left with one nut at this point 🤣

I would go go to a hardware store but I'm currently under quarantine because we are about to have a kid and I'm not allowed to leave per Dr orders. So I'm really trying to not go out unless I have to. That's why I was hoping the red thread locker would work. We will see tomorrow tho cause I'm gonna let it cure for 25 hours and then try to get it out. All the other studs were pretty easy to get out so I'm hoping with just enough force I can get this one. My vice grips kept slipping and I didn't wanna damage the threads to much as to not be able to get the nut back on. Thanks for the response!

Thanks for the response! I figure it should work cause it says it won't come off unless you add heat to it. I'm gonna try it and let it cure for 24 hours and see. I don't have the new studs yet anyway so it's not a rush for me.

Okay so weird question. I got all my exhaust studs out but one and of course it's giving me a load of trouble. I've tried heat and I don't have another nut to try and do that method because I used all the other nuts to get the others off. And now I can't actually get them off the studs them selves. Soo here is my question. Can red thread locker be used almost like a weld? I don't have access to a welder to weld the nut to the stud. So my closest thing I have is red thread locker. I'm thinking it will work. I don't plan on reusing the studs at all so that's not an issue. I tried getting vice grips on it but that's not working either. Any help?