it was not! I noticed when I dropped the bearing in with outside facing me it would not spin counter clockwise when installed… so I flipped it around the other way assuming outside would be facing outside of the motor…. But if centrifugal spun counter clockwise it should be correct, right?     I got another bearing and will be tearing it back apart and will check the disks & plates.. but I never removed basket and never had the issue before so wondering if im misunderstanding the centrifugal clutch setup. I thought as long as it would spin counter clockwise when mounted and pov facing the front of it - then its 100% correct.. is that right?

creeping in gear means your change clutch disk are not sitting right in the basket. as for the one-way bearing install ?. the words '' this side out '' should be facing you when you drop it in the centrifugal clutch drum. shift motor has nothing to do with the clutch not working right. pull it all back apart, have a look at the change clutch, i'd be willing to bet one of the disk or steel plates are not sitting in the basket right ?.

I'd send Honda of America that link you copied above.  See if they want to ignore that again.   When word starts floating around the net about a problem, it should force their hand.   Keep us posted!

Ha! You’re definitely right.    Jeep and Shadetree, y’all are awesome thanks for the advice and insight. I’ll keep hounding Honda for a bit and if that won’t work I’m confident that with yalls help I can fix this. Wrenches don’t scare me lol

Hi everyone!  04 450 foreman es. Replaced one way bearing behind centrifugal due to some engine noise under load and absolutely 0 engine braking as well as the whirling winding down sound when turning off atv. Got it done and noticed it crept in gear.. never did this before. took for a test run and engine noise is gone and engine braking is on point. Crawls like a snail coming off a hill.. but it wont stop creeping in gear! I adjusted clutch freeplay and turned idle as low as possible.. broke loose nut turned adjuster counterclockwise until it started to get tight backed off 1/4 turn and locked it down.. did this multiple times.. still creeps. Keep being told I put one way in backwards…. I confirmed when installed the centrifugal ONLY turned freely counterclock wise…. This is correct.. right? The stamp was backwards as I mistakenly went aftermarket.. but if it spins only counterclockwise if its installed correctly, right?? Is there anything I could have done incorrectly to cause this? Had no issues creeping in gear before. Could it be a faulty bearing that works in the sense of engine braking but is not fully working as designed by allowing it to creep? My old man thinks its something to do with the shifting motor gears but they only go in one way, right? (Pic of them attached was prior to clean up and re-greasing) also attached is the lifter cap / triangular ball bearing.. fell out and the way I have setup appeared correct per manual.. attached a video with idle as low as possible and it creeping. If I stop it with the brakes it stalls. Appreciate any input!! This things driving me mad.. IMG_5702.mov