ChadD

Ok got all the shafts cleaned and lubbed and reinstalled what I'm almost positive is correct. I didn't find anything that was out of place or looked suspicious. When I turn the shift drum it moves the shift forks fine. Guess we will see. I will definitely go through the gears before I put it completely back together.

Thx guys, believe I'm gonna take each shaft and one at a time take them apart and clean and double check that they are indeed put together correctly. Clean the shift drum and make sure it's clean and doesn't have any burrs or worn out.

I did try to turn it. Acted like it was binding up.

Lol. Shadetree that's exactly what I was thinking. I have went back through the manual and I can't find a thing wrong with it. This is exactly how it came out. Looks right to me.

Shift drum out so y'all can see fork locations.

I haven't touched a thing yet. Just split the case. I know it's hard to see but it's the best I can't do.

1 minute ago, retro said:

 

YEP!!! There is no cure either!

 

Check that GP switch before you tear it down. I suspect that switch is your only problem. If it is bad the shift ECM goes wonky, which explains why your indicator is not showing the correct gear as well.

Umm a little too late for that. Lol plus when it shows neutral it will not shift down any further, using either the electric shift or the manual. Would you guys go ahead and convert it to manual shift while I got it tore back down ? I was thinking, is it possible to install the shift drum 180 out? It kinda seems like that may be the case since the gears seem to shift 3 then 4 then 5 then 1 and 2nd in the last position ?

5 minutes ago, retro said:

I would check that Gear Position switch using a multimeter and the continuity test page that I posted earlier in this thread. I suspect that GP switch is bad...

 

You can prove that the internals are assembled correctly by shifting through every gear using the emergency shifter and a 12mm wrench. If you can grab every gear its probably alright.

It did shift through all the gears N-5 and you could hear them shift, ! I rode it. But there is no neutral. Neutral seemed to me to be actually 3rd gear. If you shifted into 1st the gearing is so high it won't move. 2nd gear on the indicator I assumed was actually 5th. I don't know but I'm about to crack this egg open. Lol

15 minutes ago, retro said:

Thanks for those Chevy II Pics! I always wanted to build a '67 but I never got serious enough to buy one. I was building SBC motors for Camaros and BBC motors for Chevelles for NHRA SS classes back in the late 60s through late 70s. Then I met a guy with one arm that drove dirt circle track like I had never seen before and we partnered up and formed a team. We put our first car on the track mid-season and he finished 4th, 2nd and 1st in our first three nights along with a fastest qualifier and a four-car dash win. We finished 4th in points that season (missed 3rd by only a few points) despite the fact that we missed half of the season. The following season we moved to the top in the Super late models alcohol class and dominated until we both got poor and nearly bankrupt and gave up on building & racing. I never did drive any of the race cars that I helped build and fund, not even once. I was just the motor designer & builder. Though I did learn suspension & steering setups eventually. I still miss the building, but not the racing. Got too old and poor to be trying that again. 🙂

That's cool. Been around drag racing since I was 16 and got my first car, 68 Camaro RS 327 glide, but raised 4 kids and just couldn't afford it until I got my job at the chemical plant. Now I'm too old to do it but still young enough at heart that I'm doing it anyway. It just takes one pass and your hooked to the most expensive drug in the world. So from the pic I posted we can rule out the indicator is 180 out?

Ok boys and girls this is exactly how it appeared when I took the rear case off. Look right to y'all?

1 hour ago, bcsman said:

Nothing is ever that easy.....

NEVER EVER!!!!!!

Ty. I found that and for the life of me didn't recognize it. Thought that might be my problem. Lol

Ok I was cleaning up the bench and fou d this under a rag. Anybody recognize this piece?

16 hours ago, bcsman said:

On mine I was able to stick the middle fork either above or below where it was supposed to slide into the countershaft.  Everything worked when turning the drum but would hold up and move only with some extra help.  Once I figured it out the shift drum would manually turn thru all the gears smoothly up and down.  If I had put it together like it was I'm certain there would have been shift problems, maybe not exactly what Chad has but issues...Had some great advise to help set me on the right path...

I'm gonna bet that this is the issue. We will see, hopefully shortly.

This is for retro. This is my other project. 1965 Chevy II. Mini-tubbed, narrowed 9inch. I have had to replace the floor pans got most of the cage in. Gonna be a street car with a turbo 4.8. I'll post an update asap, about to get busy on the Rancher. 

After today I'm off for 9 days in a row, burning the last of my vacation, 12 hour shift worker in a chemical plant, so I plan on going home tonight and at least getting the engine pulled and back on the bench. I'll update you guys on what I find. Surely do appreciate the advice and help.

6 hours ago, jeffo21 said:

I think the dog would take off a leg if someone other than Chad got close to the GM product.

 

He might, 200lb English Mastiff so if give him a little attention you would probably just slobbered on. Lol

27 minutes ago, shadetree said:

oh myyyyyyyy car porn galore !!!, holy crap, i'm in love with that Camaro !, I favor the '68 myself, but not much of a change in the two years though. you gonna run posi-trac I hope ?..lol. what was the fav back then , 4:10 rear diff gears ?. 

It actually has a Dana 60 with a spool. Old bracket car, back halved with 31x14 tires. I'm gonna do my best to put it back on the street. Waiting on a title right now.

Yes, sorry I have a 2000 Honda rancher 350 es. I have had 3 of the old Honda 300fw, a Suzuki King quad, 400ex, a 250x w/ a 350x engine and a a 79 Honda 110, lol.

Just now, retro said:

Nice work! What is the red one sitting next to the Camaro?

That was my 1966 Chevy II 421 small block 18 degree bowtie heads powerglide tube chassis car ran 5.6-5.7 1/8th mile. Sold it to get the Camaro.

1 minute ago, bcsman said:

Yea had the same problem Chadmy split engine fell off a cardboard box and trans parts all over.  Had the breakout from the manual and put it together wrong the first time.  The middle fork was stuck in the wrong slot and the shift drum would get stuck when trying to move.  Figured that out and then it would shift smoothly before putting the engine back together.  Make sure you move the shift drum manually to make sure it goes thru the gears......

If I have to crack it back open you bet I will make sure it's 💯 percent correct.

4 minutes ago, shadetree said:

I sure hope you dont put that motor together wrong !!!..lol.

Me too. 1967 Camaro 6.0 ls with a turbo.

3 minutes ago, shadetree said:

I sure hope you dont put that motor together wrong !!!..lol.

Me too. 1967 Camaro 6.0 ls with a turbo.

1 minute ago, shadetree said:

ok, now we're getting some where !. I hate to say this, buttttttttttt.. ( gotta love it huh ? ), your gonna have to rip it all back apart, make sure you put the tranny together right ?, install the gear position switch correctly !, make sure the clutch is installed right, and adjusted right !. double, triple check all your work as you go, it sounds like you rushed through this, and now its not right..sorry I hated to tell you this.

You could be right, as I was tapping the old crank out the trans fell out. I have a manual and put it together and tore it back apart 4 times trying to make sure it was right. Good lord I was hoping for something else. I got another engine I need to be building.

I will check that asap. Insure hope it's something that easy. Motor has been installed and removed 3 times already.