Vagabondrobb
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Just spoke to a couple of local (ish) agricultural/atv parts dealers and they are saying around £300 for new shaft assembly! I think I will go with the partzilla option. Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
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18 hours ago, jeepwm69 said:Looks like #6 here. Around $80 at RMATV.
https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/atv/2015/trx420fm1-2ac/front-final-gear
Yeah that’s spot on, and not a bad price. It’s same again for the shipping though which is the problem here in the UK… but I may have to bite the bullet, as they say!
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18 hours ago, shadetree said:have you cross referenced this front drive shaft to see what all other modes may use the same part ?. some times honda parts will swap from models to models, years to years. look to see if a 450 front drive shaft will work ?, or a trx500 front drive shaft ?, if any of them will swap in ?, i bet i could locate you one !.
I haven’t. You’re probably right - I will have a look and see. Think I may pop into the local atv place and ask the mechanic!
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I did have a some messages in my inbox from members last time I looked (a couple of months ago) but it seems to have been cleared out for some reason!
On 10/26/2021 at 1:06 AM, SamUK said:Did you sort your issue out in the end rob?
Haha... not yet! Been pretty full on over the winter with various projects and 4WD not so high on list of priorities. I find its pretty easy to get a 420 unstuck, so I've just been manhandling it whenever i get into trouble. But its a different story when I need to start pulling the flail mower about! It weighs a ton!
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Hey guys, so it's taken me a while, but finally made time to get the front prop off (got to get the flail mower out soon so will actually need 4WD). Much easier job than I thought. The splines are indeed worn, and by the feel of it likewise for the coupler. So I guess its time to get a new/old one... finally. Still cant seem to find anything in the UK (apart from paying £400-500 at the local shop to get repaired). Would be happy to pay shipping from the US for a second hand one!
Cheers!
Robb
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17 hours ago, jeepwm69 said:Pull your shaft and see if you need a coupler too.
I have shipped Sam parts in the past due to the astronomical cost of them over there. Shipping won’t be cheap, but would probably still be cheaper to do that than for you to source them locally.
Cheers mate, that would be brill.
I'm guessing its just a matter of unbolting the front axel from the chassis and yanking it back?!
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On 9/23/2021 at 2:00 AM, SamUK said:Check out jeepwm69 link and see if that’s what your after.
I have to ask… what happened to your original shaft?
As fishflies says - I'm fairly sure it's stripped. Got stuck and realised only the rear wheels were spinning. The coupler spins with the engine but the shaft only spins when the front wheels move (and 4WD engaged). So I'm pretty sure it's the splines!
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On 9/22/2021 at 9:04 PM, jeepwm69 said:Sorry I've been away for work. Yeah that's the one! I'm not sure about the coupler - I haven't taken the shaft off yet. So ideally looking for both!
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9 hours ago, Fishfiles said:G'Day Robb !!! ---- Welcome to the forum --- @SamUK is our UK go to guy , hope to see him stop by soon as we have not seen him lately , whilst we wait maybe we can have some " Tea and Cookies " !!!
Tea I can do, but I don't know anything about these cookie things. I may be able to rustle up some Rich Teas or Mcvities Digestives however...
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4 hours ago, SamUK said:Hey rob, a good friend of mine over in the USA told me you need some assistance sourcing parts… I may be able to help you.
First of all, what year is your 420, any idea? If you don’t know, take a photo of the frame (vin) number and post it here, we can find out the year via that.
sam
Hey Sam!
Cheers mate, much appreciated!! My 420 is 2015. Having a real time trying to find anything here in the UK!
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Hi guys,
Wondering where to buy new parts for my 420 in the UK... I'm still looking for a new front propshaft and winter is coming! Any ideas? Everywhere I've found so far have been US based and charge big shipping fees.
Cheers!!
Robb
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7 hours ago, Melatv said:Amazing, thanks mate.
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Ok will do. I don’t have a service manual, can it be downloaded somewhere? ATV mechanic told me shaft can be removed by unbolting the diff and pulling it back a few inches. What could go wrong?
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21 hours ago, Fishfiles said:I don't know how that set engages 4wd for sure , from looking at the print , the arm with the red dot moves the dog to make #8 and #9 mate for 4wd , so I would say the drive shaft doesn't move much if at all when shifted and it is stripped at the collar --- my 450 has that same collar and splines on the drive shaft , I have stripped it out before , front and back
Had another fiddle this morning and noticed that if 4WD is engaged then the shaft locks and will not turn (with the wheels are on the ground), but I can rotate it in 2WD. I guess this indicates that it is indeed the splines on the engine side that are stripped. Will bite the bullet and order a new shaft and joint...
Thankyou both for the help!
Robb
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I guess the only way to tell for sure is to take it out and take it look!
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So should I see the shaft physical shift back towards the engine? This doesn’t happen. But shifting the pushing the 4WD lever does turn the arm (where the red dot is)...
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Hey, yes it moves with the lever. I did think it could be loose (it doesn’t move a great distance) so used some grips to twist it all the way but it didn’t make any difference...
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So I put her up on sticks again and stripped the side off to get a closer look. To me it does seem to be worn splines, but perhaps there’s something I’m not taking into account?
I uploaded a video showing the problem/inspection below, maybe a more experienced eye can confirm or shed some more light on the problem!
cheers!
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Hi everyone,
So my 2015 420 has lost 4WD to the front wheels. Local ATV mechanic reckons its the splines at the engine end of the front shaft.
I'm guessing the shaft needs replacing, along with the joint that it connects to engine block with?
Also, anyone know the best place to order parts from... in the UK?
Cheers!
Robb
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7 hours ago, jeepwm69 said:Welcome aboard. My ancestors were the Lochbuie McClains. My parents made it over there a couple of years ago, and hopefully I'll make it over there in my lifetime.
We have a few in the UK. @SamUK hasn't been active much lately, but I still email him occasionally and hopefully he'll be more active once covid settles down and life gets back to somewhat normal.
Well I moved here from southern England and my roots are Irish... but the Scots are very welcoming! You must come if you get the chance.Thanks again to everyone for the welcome! Good to meet so many of you!
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Thanks for the welcome!
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Hi all,
TRX 420 owner for about a year - recommended here by a member!
I’ve got a problem with my 4WD, will post separately!
for now pleasure to meet you all!
cheers!
Robb
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Thanks, although I've taken the plunge with partzilla I think it's 20% of the cost, inc shipping. So I will pay about £110, which is still saving me near £200 if I buy it from a dealer here in UK!