Cliffcole 2 Posted October 19, 2021 Have a 2020 420 that turns over but won’t start. It’s been running fine, then all of the sudden it would die when warmed up. Put new fuel pump on and filter. Also new spark plug. Have tested injector, seems to be working. No fuel to spark plug. Need help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,749 Posted October 19, 2021 Shot of starter fluid in the intake. Does it fire off? If not, you have a spark problem. If it does, you have a fuel delivery problem (in my experience, probably the FI relay). Try that and report back. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 19, 2021 It starts with starter fluid, just doesn’t seem to get enough fuel coming out of injector. If I disconnect hose from fuel tank, it comes pouring out when trying to start it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,970 Posted October 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, Cliffcole said: It starts with starter fluid, just doesn’t seem to get enough fuel coming out of injector. If I disconnect hose from fuel tank, it comes pouring out when trying to start it tells me the injector is dirty ?, or bad ?. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,749 Posted October 19, 2021 Sounds like a clogged injector. Order a used one from powersportsnation. Should be about $10 shipped. Try it and see. Had a 13 DCT 420 recently that had the same issue. New injector fixed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,749 Posted October 19, 2021 Yikes, looks the newer models are a lot more expensive. https://www.ebay.com/itm/294318216345?fits=Model%3ARancher+420&epid=1877159868&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4486bb9499%3Ag%3AsoIAAOSwg-9hDSg2&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACoPYe5NmHp%2B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsS%2Fwocn770hnih0B3mVHNZ5JA4LjgAwkNAnX9LAhbuxuN%2FSOwHhU1pQU6hkCFNltz3YBLzBbfFFYVvIJFBxALY69uO0WFIQA4x6XAsFSqgs7%2F8vR2oO9s6MUjZKWztarppshG3pqghfnAuVvFOdLKwIT%2BIfJ29Q1TXc9B3zKHX4pef7lin23jNnHnRrUu7AnCibOdE8%2FybYsGXlZ5fnCVRlH7nnhGKqQgP%2BH5MuCM67oawYFgrAA%2FVu%2BQ8HKfWfg3d9yMQxAt6RJLGceEnDWe2QeaGk6hrYdqb%2FOkKh3t0hbJ00zoWw99K2xeeQV8Szv9Rx1GD%2BrjvWONxl5uFu%2BFbUwPvkFr6aQKkqxi1Vjl8Nn36xs7QOjTU6ldnvFYM9dCGDmVaU5tcumFRalefcUjCaFlXOCry%2Fg%2BFuJrMfB99vA82o7YlH1c2FnaGEuyGGoIDiSI9ml7KHFuwLyENXCY71VWmKJpgXfF5yEv0iRu32lC2cFvNXT4LbFkdCiFdcfxwFPziojNBn28C7YSEXKyDO%2FZb4fSY0J8R8Bnpzi8T7Z3JtvREtGs8BrlU9FFBiLcYBg%2Bvm3efW9DbFXsh69C3dZfiWP%2BITuP%2F20AgvfADQ7nfFQiJFplPXKcRnVL1pP6VNtkkbRYxZGLilLkwExeiWagO5qcXvH1MbZBz2907Pvd2a%2FV8J4J49KdKe40VwsfHVWzKSBkWcxWUlkgW7RyqilaPauIVpAaeRn%2Ffqkc6CZ3nEGxuXhfo9bpfY6NX8iqZd0ZaPyKD7MO6ne6OmJJf4DruSioM5ighqnmODg9WQaPP1D0f9Ft4X8ozxJFL88k1c3prsF3Sv7sFQ5E1V0itdw%3D%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2334524&LH_ItemCondition=4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Alright thanks, I’ll order a new injector to see if that fix’s it. Will let y’all know. I tested injector by hooking up battery and sprayed cleaner through it, comes out fine. Edited October 19, 2021 by Cliffcole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,749 Posted October 19, 2021 Can't believe you're already getting issues with a 2020. Has it been sunk/ abused? I'd take the injector off and try blowing back through it with compressed air before you order a new one. You need to make sure that's the problem before you start throwing parts at it (unless the parts are cheap like the 07-13 injectors are LOL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,749 Posted October 19, 2021 Try running a jumper wire from 12V + on the battery to the red/black wire on the coil. See if that changes anything. That will bypass the bank angle sensor, fuel injection relay, and a few other components that can cause issues with the EFI. I'd hate for you to buy a new injector if you have a fuel injection relay going south or other electrical issue. When you say you pulled the fuel line "off the tank" do you mean you disconnected it at the injector and it sprayed fuel everywhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 19, 2021 It hasn’t been sunk or abused. Started out couple weekends ago when riding and get warmed up it would die. Wait ten minutes it would start back up but not for long. Then rode around yard and stop running since Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 19, 2021 Yes , pulled hose from injector and plenty of fuel comes out. I’ve tried connecting jumper wire to red and black. Just turns over no start Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotticus 777 Posted October 19, 2021 I have a 2020 Rancher. I just received a recall for a defective fuel pump that will be replaced free of charge. Here is a picture of the recall letter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,970 Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 1:39 PM, Cliffcole said: Reveal hidden contents please tell me..you are NOT installing this auto fuel pump in this atv ??!!!...sigh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 22, 2021 Is it not good, seems to work. But might be my problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,970 Posted October 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Cliffcole said: Is it not good, seems to work. But might be my problem did you not read the post above ^^^, about the fuel pump recalls ?, stop with the auto crap, look into them replacing your pump free of charge ?, or install an oem pump, DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME WITH AN AUTO PUMP...SIGH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 23, 2021 I read the post above and not all 2020 420 pumps are recall. They go by serial number and mine wasn’t coved. But a whole pump and assembly today from honda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,970 Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Cliffcole said: I read the post above and not all 2020 420 pumps are recall. They go by serial number and mine wasn’t coved. But a whole pump and assembly today from honda they go by vin numbers, not serial numbers, and i did not see any vin numbers on that letter head that was posted ?, but this does not mean they have a list somewhere ?. good deal on going oem from honda !. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cliffcole 2 Posted October 23, 2021 Put new oem pump on a runs like new, thanks guys 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,970 Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cliffcole said: Put new oem pump on a runs like new, thanks guys good deal..thank you for listening to our/my/ advice...if it was not important ?, we would not tell you things !. glad ya got it going !. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
