Anitomical 4 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 3:59 PM, Fishfiles said: I know you say it can only go into the flywheel one certain way , but can maybe the rollers come out of the cage and be flipped around ??? Also this is a picture of the rollers, none of them look out of place and they look fine. And I noticed when I try to use the starter, it starts to spin, then gets hard to spin, and then I kinda hear a little metal clunk and the starter gear kinda wobbles when that happens? So something maybe uneven even though I put everything on right and I torque them down properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted January 29, 2022 Hard to tell from that unclear pic , it does look like they are all facing the same way , but it looks like some of the sprag rollers are kind of buffed up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted January 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: Hard to tell from that unclear pic , it does look like they are all facing the same way , but it looks like some of the sprag rollers are kind of buffed up Yeah I'm sorry, I don't really have a great phone, only 8MP for the front camera 😅, I can try to take it apart and get more pictures of the the whole assembly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted January 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: Hard to tell from that unclear pic , it does look like they are all facing the same way , but it looks like some of the sprag rollers are kind of buffed up Hopefully these are a little bit better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted January 30, 2022 Sorry for the horrible quality again, but I'm not fully sure if this should do this. The one-way gear spins in the direction it should (it's actually going the opposite way in this because I have it flipped around so it's easier to do/show) but if I barely press on the one-way bearing and move it the way that it locks up, it just spins and doesn't lock up. 877694139.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted January 30, 2022 Looks bad to me , I'd say get a new one ----- is a new one even available , some Honda one way bearings are no longer available 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted January 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Fishfiles said: Looks bad to me , I'd say get a new one ----- is a new one even available , some Honda one way bearings are no longer available Yes, they're around $33, but a OEM one comes with the one-way gear and that's over $200 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 24, 2022 Ok so I FINALLY got it running, (she's a tad bit smoky when she warms up but I believe that's because of the left over oil that was in the exhaust maybe?) but when I go to adjust the idle, it doesn't adjust and it idles pretty high. And i'm pretty sure it's running lean and I can't figure out where the A/F screw is Just thought I'd update y'all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted February 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Anitomical said: Ok so I FINALLY got it running, what did you do to get it running Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 24, 2022 I got a new one way bearing and I obviously did a top end rebuild and it started up almost instantly. It already runs better than before despite the high idle and it running lean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 24, 2022 It's also definitely running lean, it idles super high with the choke off and idles perfect with the choke on 20220224_155632.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted February 24, 2022 Wow you not kidding about running fast idle. Is it a oem carb. Has the Carb been cleaned. Does the Suzuki carb have a choke butterfly or a enrichment plunger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Fishfiles said: Wow you not kidding about running fast idle. Is it a oem carb. Has the Carb been cleaned. Does the Suzuki carb have a choke butterfly or a enrichment plunger. It has a oem carb, no because the bolts are completely stripped so I can't take off the bowl, and it has a enrichment plunger. I didn't mess with anything when I took the carb off and when I put it back on, I kept the carb in a clean environment so it shouldn't be that bad? But yet again, I'm not fully sure. I also have another video that I just took with it idling after a minute (not good by the way)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Anitomical said: It has a oem carb, no because the bolts are completely stripped so I can't take off the bowl, and it has a enrichment plunger. I didn't mess with anything when I took the carb off and when I put it back on, I kept the carb in a clean environment so it shouldn't be that bad? But yet again, I'm not fully sure. I also have another video that I just took with it idling after a minute (not good by the way)... 20220224_184841.mp4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted February 25, 2022 It is running hard on a fresh rebuild , you need to fix that Is that enrichment plunger frozen up / stuck , or the cable frozen up ? On them carb bowl screws , I have had luck with a mini pair of Vise-Grips when they are frozen up and stripped ? Or a Dremel with a grinding wheel and cut a slot in to the top for a flat screwdriver , or one of them hammer drivers 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: It is running hard on a fresh rebuild , you need to fix that Is that enrichment plunger frozen up / stuck , or the cable frozen up ? On them carb bowl screws , I have had luck with a mini pair of Vise-Grips when they are frozen up and stripped ? Or a Dremel with a grinding wheel and cut a slot in to the top for a flat screwdriver , or one of them hammer drivers I was thinking about doing that last part, but nothing is frozen and everything works as it should. And I don't believe it's the jets because it's a OEM style piston Also I tried to move it under it's own power and it just took off and I wasn't even on the throttle, I shut it off immediately so i didnt ruin anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBRider 1,411 Posted February 25, 2022 Sounds like mine with the choke on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted February 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Anitomical said: I was thinking about doing that last part, but nothing is frozen and everything works as it should. And I don't believe it's the jets because it's a OEM style piston Also I tried to move it under it's own power and it just took off and I wasn't even on the throttle, I shut it off immediately so i didnt ruin anything I have heard people say that an air leak in the intake can cause a high idle , never really experienced it , but heard it said just recently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,719 Posted February 25, 2022 I'd check your enrichment valve/ choke, and if you spray starter fluid around the intake boot and there's a leak, you should hear a change in the idle. Those 300's have a carb that runs downhill into the head, so if you get a sticky/leaky float needle they fill the engine up with gas. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 25, 2022 I took the intake boot off last night and put gasket sealer on it to see if that will help, I need to put the carburetor and stuff back on later to see if that worked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 25, 2022 Well I was gonna start it today, but it doesn't have enough gas to fill the bowl, so tomorrow I will try to get gas and then prime the carb and then I'll update y'all later tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted February 26, 2022 I was thinking about your high idle issue , wonder if throttle cable routing is an issue , by any chance did you pull and tug on cables , or routed it differently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Fishfiles said: I was thinking about your high idle issue , wonder if throttle cable routing is an issue , by any chance did you pull and tug on cables , or routed it differently I don't believe so, but I remember when I put the cable back on, right before I did I turned the idle knob until it was just barely touching the thing. And as soon as I put the cable on, it was about a centimeter off of the idle knob. Also I did think about the whole rerouting thing so I tried multiple routes and it was always the same. But I'm pretty sure the high idle was because of the intake boot might've been leaking. The reason I think that is not only because of how hot the exhaust was getting almost instantly, but when I put the choke on it idled down to where it should be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Fishfiles said: I was thinking about your high idle issue , wonder if throttle cable routing is an issue , by any chance did you pull and tug on cables , or routed it differently I'm truly at a lose for words? I tried it just now, and it didn't work, but randomly it worked and I went to adjust the idle because it was way to low and then it shut off and then I turned it back on (it didn't want to start at first) went back to the extremely high idle. Then I decided to give it some manual choke (hand slightly over the intake) and it idled down but when I went to go rev it a little, it just died. Then I decided to take out the spark plug to see if that had any signs of if it was running rich or lean... and when I took it out it was covered in soot. Like I rubbed my finger across it lightly and it instantly looked cleaner. I'm at a complete lose of words and I have no clue why it's doing this. When I had the carb off, I adjusted the A/F screw to about 1 and a half turns, I believe it was at about 2 and a half. I want to adjust the A/F again but it's at the bottom of the carb and you can't get to it unless you take it off which is ! to put back on. (Also when I rev it up in general, it sometimes stays at that rpm for a few seconds without lowering in rpm? That's without the manual choke.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anitomical 4 Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 10:14 AM, jeepwm69 said: I'd check your enrichment valve/ choke, and if you spray starter fluid around the intake boot and there's a leak, you should hear a change in the idle. Those 300's have a carb that runs downhill into the head, so if you get a sticky/leaky float needle they fill the engine up with gas. Looks like I might have to take the carb apart then because this is probably what's happening... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites