Tim-ANC 202 Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) My son's 2007 500 Sportsman rear axle failed. The inner CV housing is held together by a spring clip retainer (second pic). This retainer is worn out and will not retain the knuckle. They are after market heavy duty installed by a PO. No markings on them at all, hence I can't find the correct re-build kit for them. First pic, I bought a used axle off another Sportsman. It too is non-OEM. This knuckle is retained by stakes in the housing. The knuckle is not removable without grinding out the stakes. Which method is better? How does Honda retain the knuckles? I've not had a Honda axle apart. Edited January 29, 2021 by Tim-ANC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melatv 797 Posted January 30, 2021 I have never seen anything done like that before -- but I have seen the retainer spot welded to hold it in place -- they are very costly to replace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim-ANC 202 Posted January 30, 2021 There is a groove inside the housing the ring is supposed to sit in under tension. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,970 Posted March 20, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 7:48 PM, Tim-ANC said: There is a groove inside the housing the ring is supposed to sit in under tension. old post here, but on most axles, inners will come apart, outside cv parts will not come apart. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim-ANC 202 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) That housing with stakes actually had a spring clip on the shaft securing it to the knuckle. Had to beat the ! out of it with my rivet gun to get it to pop. The axle with the clip holding the balls also came apart on the outboard end. Spring clip on the shaft. Wish I knew the brand to avoid. Poor design. Edit: good to see ya Shade Edited March 20, 2021 by Tim-ANC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted March 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, Tim-ANC said: Had to beat the ! out of it with my rivet gun to get it to pop. Do you mean a air hammer and not a rivet gun ???? ---- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim-ANC 202 Posted March 20, 2021 Rivet gun. Much more sophisticated than an air hammer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted March 21, 2021 16 hours ago, Tim-ANC said: Rivet gun. Much more sophisticated than an air hammer. That's what I call a air hammer , this is what I call a rivet gun 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim-ANC 202 Posted March 21, 2021 This rivet gun is used to install aluminum solid rivets in aircraft structure. With a die in the gun you place it firmly on the head then a bucking bar on the tail. Tap the head and the bucking bar smashes the tail. This fastens sheets of metal together. The gun is adjustable so you can vary the force. More for larger diameter rivets. Less for smaller. I'm an airplane mechanic and started my professional life pounding rivets. I believe an air hammer is not adjustable but has more punch. Never used one because I've always had this. What you have pictured is a blind rivet puller. They can also be pneumatic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim-ANC 202 Posted March 21, 2021 Bit of a long winded article: https://www.eaa.org/eaa/aircraft-building/BuilderResources/while-youre-building/building-articles/metal/rivet-gun-notes-and-riveting-tips "Selecting Your Rivet Gun If you don't already own a suitable rivet gun and are in the market for one, check around with other builders before you buy. Be sure you get the type of gun you need. Don't goof and be fooled into buying an air hammer or air chisel just because the price is enticing. Although the thing might look like a rivet gun, and sound much like one, too, a rivet gun it ain't. The problem with an air hammer is that it simply hits too hard and too fast. If you try using it as a rivet gun, you will stand a good chance of denting and damaging the soft aluminum skin around the rivet you are attempting to drive (set). A rivet gun's blows, on the other hand, are typically slower and you can exercise far better trigger control over its impact rate." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Wilson_™ 6,593 Posted March 21, 2021 how did you do on getting the c-v joint apart ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim-ANC 202 Posted March 21, 2021 It came apart. The outboard end was not removable. Changed both boots and slammed it back together. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Wilson_™ 6,593 Posted March 21, 2021 so it's back up running again, good deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites