Quadjunkie 37 Posted October 14, 2020 I'm changing the oil and need a new filter for an 04 450 ES. Where are you guys getting your filters online? Does fram have a good filter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,147 Posted October 14, 2020 I use Doanldson filters , here are a few numbers for you Fram CH6015 cross reference chart AC-Delco Pf2148 Baldwin P7132 Big A 96944 Canadian Tire 27-5514-6 Carquest 89944 Champ P7013 Emgo 10-99200 Hastings Lf474 Hiflo Hf112 Honda 15410-KF0-305 Honda 15410-KF0-315 Honda 15410-KFO-315 Honda 15412-HM5-A10 Honda 15412-KF0-000 Honda 15412-KF0-010 Honda 15412-KF0-020 K & N Kn-112 Kawasaki 52010-1053 Luber-Finer P7013 Mobil 1 M1mc-173 Napa 4944 Polaris 3088036 Purolator Ml16815 STP P7013 Warner P7013 WIX 24944 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quadjunkie 37 Posted October 14, 2020 😀 That is exactly what I needed. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,719 Posted October 14, 2020 Go to Napa, get the PS4944. They are Wix filters, and are LOT better than Fram. If you want to buy multiples online, Rockauto has the Wix 24944. You'll have to order several to make it worthwhile after they add on the shipping charges. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quadjunkie 37 Posted October 14, 2020 I jumped on the Napa web site and with a little research found they have a category for atv's. The Napa filter has the wix # but there is a little oring around the metal opening. Wonder if that is worth $2.00 more.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87Iroc 344 Posted October 14, 2020 Autozone had filters when I was doing rapid fire oil changes in my 450 during the troubleshooting phase. Was shocked it wasn't a dealer only item. That said, running Honda filters right now but run Wix or Napa brand in my cars and believe they have really good quality filters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,719 Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Quadjunkie said: I jumped on the Napa web site and with a little research found they have a category for atv's. The Napa filter has the wix # but there is a little oring around the metal opening. Wonder if that is worth $2.00 more.... They should all have that rubber seal on one side. I'm pretty sure they're the same filter. The Napa one just costs more because it's Napa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87Iroc 344 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Quadjunkie said: I jumped on the Napa web site and with a little research found they have a category for atv's. The Napa filter has the wix # but there is a little oring around the metal opening. Wonder if that is worth $2.00 more.... That's a replacement for the filter cover o-ring. I change them on my cars about every other oil change for no reason other than it comes with the filter. If you haven't touched it in a while you could change it but honestly an o-ring, if designed right, should be re-usable. As long as its not cut or sagging...shoudl be OK. Oh, after reading Jeep's response and reading yours again. They should all have that seal and be careful how you install it! The aftermarket ones aren't marked how it goes together whereas Honda's are stamped which side is which. Edited October 14, 2020 by 87Iroc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,719 Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, 87Iroc said: That's a replacement for the filter cover o-ring. I change them on my cars about every other oil change for no reason other than it comes with the filter. If you haven't touched it in a while you could change it but honestly an o-ring, if designed right, should be re-usable. As long as its not cut or sagging...shoudl be OK. Wasn't sure if he was talking about the oring for the cover, or the rubber seal that's on one side of the filter. I rarely change the oring on the cover. I do keep those in case I need them down the road. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,969 Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, 87Iroc said: That's a replacement for the filter cover o-ring. I change them on my cars about every other oil change for no reason other than it comes with the filter. If you haven't touched it in a while you could change it but honestly an o-ring, if designed right, should be re-usable. As long as its not cut or sagging...shoudl be OK. Oh, after reading Jeep's response and reading yours again. They should all have that seal and be careful how you install it! The aftermarket ones aren't marked how it goes together whereas Honda's are stamped which side is which. umm..i beg to differ !..lol. i had a honda bag with a honda oil filter inside, removed the filter from the package, and low an behold, the words stamped on the filter '' this side out '' WERE ON THE WRONG END OF THE FILTER !..LOL. glad i know which way they go in !!. at the bottom of the package on the front, it read '' Made in Taiwan '' rofl. i'll see if i still have the pics i took that day ?. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,969 Posted October 14, 2020 here is the '' honda '' oil filter..lol. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,969 Posted October 14, 2020 sooo..with these pics posted ^^^...ALWAYS REMEMBER..THE SOLID END GOES IN FIRST WITH THE SPRING BEHIND IT, AND THE SEAL FACES OUTSIDE AGAINST THE COVER :-). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oh400ex 629 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) That is criminal! Depending on what company that came from you might be able to make that worth its weight in gold. Send the company that sold you that filter an email. Attach an invoice for engine repair and a few pictures of that sunk foreman you are working on lol Just see if that ruffles any feathers 😅 Edit: Fram bad wix good Edited October 14, 2020 by oh400ex 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
87Iroc 344 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) Yep. For a newby...it would have screwed me up. I took a pic when I was putting the last filter in so I could reference back lol... Edited October 14, 2020 by 87Iroc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quadjunkie 37 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) That looks like reversing the filter would be easy to do. The Napa is only around $9.00. Not to bad. How many companies make filters? The list in post #2 is long but how many are the same filter? Edited October 14, 2020 by Quadjunkie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_Wilson_™ 6,591 Posted October 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, shadetree said: umm..i beg to differ !..lol. i had a honda bag with a honda oil filter inside, removed the filter from the package, and low an behold, the words stamped on the filter '' this side out '' WERE ON THE WRONG END OF THE FILTER !..LOL. glad i know which way they go in !!. at the bottom of the package on the front, it read '' Made in Taiwan '' rofl. i'll see if i still have the pics i took that day ?. i recal, that post ... i was like wth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
