jeepwm69 7,420 Posted November 6 Some of the guys who have been around for awhile will remember the discussions we had when this board was started, in regards to politics/religion. At the time some members though it was a bad idea, but some thought it should be allowed as "free speech" Those arguing to allow such ultimately won out, so we've had free reign to do so for quite awhile now. As some predicted, it ultimately has caused problems. We've had some long time members who contributed greatly who left the board, and we've had some infighting amongst those who have remain. In short, it is proving to be eating away at the board, a little at a time. We started this board after vertical scope ruined the old board. We have a group of guys here who like to work on ATV's, and who like to help others work on ATV's. I see them as puzzles to be solved, and I enjoy working through the problems, and I also could not have done MOST of the projects I've fixed without help from the guys on this board. THAT is why this board is here. Discussing politics and religion, and having memes posted everywhere has detracted from the primary reason for this forum's existence. If this board is going to continue to survive, things have to change. We can't be fighting amongst ourselves. That said, I like a meme or two, and sometimes I'm in the mood to argue politics and/or religion. There's a great place for that here. It's free. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/General-Discussion/5/ Huge forum, much bigger than this one likely will ever be, but it's somewhere I frequent that allows the shenanigans. They can afford to have members at odds with each other. Here, we can't. We're too small, too closely knit, and it's tearing this place apart. I ask for your understanding, that we all can tell @shadetree that he was right when he says "I TOLD YOU SO!" and that we can go back to fixing ATV's here. 7 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56Sierra 1,844 Posted November 6 Yeah, you're right and I'm as guilty as the next guy. [Holds head low in shame]. I promise to behave. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,420 Posted November 6 We’ve all argued on here, and it’s boiled over to PM’s, so something had to give. It’s bothered me for awhile that some of our regulars who were in the minority politically on here haven’t been around. Perhaps they’ll give the place another chance. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bighanded 1,232 Posted November 6 as always Jeep....you have my appreciation and support in your policies. thanks! Ed 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,803 Posted November 6 I TOLD YOU SO !..ROFL..wayyy to funny jeep !. really though, that's not the words i wanted to be posting, i'd rather be saying..dang..we have grown so large through the years, helping folks that are broke , and could not afford to take their atv to a repair shop. let alone .most atv's older than 10 yrs old ?..THEY WON'T TOUCH !. sooo..in steps all of us..the guys that has a passion in wrenching. this is my back bone for the past 30 something years. i will stay here as long as i can, or i am kicked to the pasture..which ever one comes first ?..lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,420 Posted November 7 20 hours ago, Bighanded said: as always Jeep....you have my appreciation and support in your policies. thanks! Ed Not just me. I'm just the spokesperson. I have admittedly waffled quite a bit on the politics/no politics argument every time it's come up. But again, something has to give, or we're going to slowly die on the vine as people get mad and leave. I hope we don't lose any with this change. I hope that folks can go elsewhere to discuss such (which is what I do) and still contribute and help those who come here looking for it when fixing their Hondas. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bighanded 1,232 Posted November 13 On 11/6/2023 at 5:32 PM, shadetree said: I TOLD YOU SO !..ROFL..wayyy to funny jeep !. really though, that's not the words i wanted to be posting, i'd rather be saying..dang..we have grown so large through the years, helping folks that are broke , and could not afford to take their atv to a repair shop. let alone .most atv's older than 10 yrs old ?..THEY WON'T TOUCH !. sooo..in steps all of us..the guys that has a passion in wrenching. this is my back bone for the past 30 something years. i will stay here as long as i can, or i am kicked to the pasture..which ever one comes first ?..lol. only two "authentic" ATV shops in my area (ie not fancy retail with warranty repair) Both of those shops stay backed up on work and it's a hard thing for owners of antiques like mine to roll in and find out that a repair is going to cost more than the bikes bring in marketplace. It's one of the reasons I treat my older machines with a bit of love. I hope they will stay with me a couple more years until I really am too old myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
