shadetree

i doubt it, i never pull the gears off the tranny shafts when i pull them from the case, i keep them all together.

some more tear down pics, parts laying all over the shop !..lol.

found the problem !. change clutch shafts laying on the bench, top shaft, far left, washer, gear, then shaft. bottom shaft: washer, gear, ANOTHER washer !, then shaft. you can see the marks on the one gear where the lower gear dogs were smacking it. i knew i heard metal to metal clanking ( slight ) when riding it !. well, there you have it mystery solved !. i'm tired, pull 2 lower ends today, ripped them apart, ripped my motor all the way down and out i'm beat. gonna close my shop down, grab me some vittles, call it a day. from now on ?..I WILL TRIPLE CHECK ALL WASHERS !!!.LOL.

this the one you purchased ----> https://www.partzilla.com/product/honda/33700-HP5-601?ref=ab7d55104b6f0463639cfff1300aeae81b5d1b45 ? 2008 trx420ES 4x4 ( A ) model.

thanks you for the update !. sorry about the ecu/pcm, but oh well..least ya got some cash back !!!.

just came in from the shop, taken a break for a bit. got two lower ends ripped apart, went through both of them, laid out all the great looking parts. later on i will start ripping my motor apart down to the lower end, then it will be easier to remove from the frame. get it up on my bench, and start tearing it all the way down.

normal wear and tear, but cranking it over like you were doing did not help much..lol.

careful !..it will come out all the way !. tap it in, as your pulling cover, same with kick start shaft !!!. ( remove that bolt )

just made a call to my bud, he's got a lower end in his bone yard, i will make my way out there today, yank it, bring it home for parts. then start the task of tearing into my motor, not gonna stand here and pray it will fix itself ?, just gonna rip it out, start all over. sucks..but must be done before i put this up for sale. while i tear mine down, i will look for anything wrong as i go ?, i hope i find something !!!, i don't mind the work ?, what i do mind is not finding something that sticks out at me in this case !!!. maybe i over looked something when i was putting it back together ?, maybe something got left out ?. it would not surprise me one bit !. i put tons of hours into this kinda work, and i tend to push my limit on hours on end. i will post any findings as i progress on this, right now, i can't live with myself knowing this motor is not correct !. flash back to that stupid '05 trx500fm all over again !..lol. hang tight outlaws, i'll get-r-done !.

translation ^^^..shade's gonna get his motor out, apart, go through it, fix it, back together, back in the frame, and running before i get this one fixed and running ?!..lol.

i swapped out baskets last night, still had wobble. i checked the idle gear, and washers, all that looked ok too me ?. only thing i did not swap out was the change clutch bushing ?, i've got to look around my shop, and see if i have another bushing to compare too ?. worse comes to worse ?, i'll rip the motor out today/tonight, and go back through her..i dont like noises that should not be there !..lol.

geee..after looking this project over ^^^ ?, now i don't feel so bad having to rip my running motor all back apart !..lol. you have your hands full bro !!.

went out to shop earlier to close it up, figured i'd eye-ball it one last time, while watching the change clutch as i spun rear tires, i could see a slight wobble with the change clutch ?, i could spin the change clutch around by hand slowly, and i could feel it start to bind up in one spot against the primary gear. tomorrow, i will see about swapping out the change clutch bushing, and see if that solves the wobble ?. if not ?, this tells me the change clutch shaft is bent ?!.

yeah..thats one way too look at it !..lol.

would only do it while in gear, moving. i'm almost sure it has something to do the change clutch shaft ?, least thats what i hear and feel anyway ?.

update: well crap !!!, got far enough to do a test ride ( just around my back yard ), hearing a noise that should not be there ?. ripped the drive line out, still there, removed the clutch side cover, pulled both clutches, hearing what seems to be a bad bearing in the change clutch shaft ?. bottom line : i've got to rip the motor back out, back apart, and find out wth is wrong inside the motor !!!..sigh..story of my life..lol.

pic's..or it did not happen !..lol.

wow !!..very cool !!!, now i can say i've seen one !!..lol..ty :-).

yes, super clean, and some scrubbing , cleaned the tires up pretty good !.

lol..i guess bling over rules logic huh ?..lol.

your correct. i buy my warn winches with rope !.

ummm...i've never seen a trx70 ?..i know they made the atc 70 !, but i have not ever seen a trx70 ?..trx90..yep..trx70 ?..nope !.

rims painted, skid plate painted and installed. diff vent lines ran, even found a red button for the reverse lever !..lol. stuck a '' wrong shift lever '' on it to go through the gears while running, all good , everything works so far !!!. gonna hold off until i get the air filter, take all that area down then, then i can paint an install the side covers, install the fuel petcock knob.

i've got one coming bro, along with the rear rack, and air filter, and the fuel petcock knob, then i should be done with all parts ?. ty anyway !!

rope, 50 ft is most you can put on them.