TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: I bet your glad you opened it up , that nasty stuff would have made grinding compound out your oil Got any tips on cleaning that crap out? Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,145 Posted March 31, 2020 Take it you don't have a parts washer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,145 Posted March 31, 2020 Diesel is cheaper than mineral spirits , maybe diesel first to get the majority of the sludge , then some mineral spirts to finish it up and so it will dry , compressed air along the way if you got it , some might use gasoline , little dangerous , 6 cans of part and brake cleaner maybe ----- it is like skinning a cat , a bunch of ways to end up with the same thing , a skinned cat 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 Hmm this doesn't look great... build up of rust. Do I need to take all the gears out to clean it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fishfiles said: Diesel is cheaper than mineral spirits , maybe diesel first to get the majority of the sludge , then some mineral spirts to finish it up and so it will dry , compressed air along the way if you got it , some might use gasoline , little dangerous , 6 cans of part and brake cleaner maybe ----- it is like skinning a cat , a bunch of ways to end up with the same thing , a skinned cat Thanks man no I don't have a parts washer 😞 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,609 Posted March 31, 2020 https://www.lowes.com/pd/MOTOR-MEDIC-Starting-Fluid/1000939876?store_code=3331&placeholder=null&msclkid=1276a0111cc011839bfcfe927dce019f&gclid=CKKE5JCDxegCFcWrxQIdwDAGbQ&gclsrc=ds Can yall get starter fluid over there? If not, brake parts cleaner works in a pinch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, jeepwm69 said: https://www.lowes.com/pd/MOTOR-MEDIC-Starting-Fluid/1000939876?store_code=3331&placeholder=null&msclkid=1276a0111cc011839bfcfe927dce019f&gclid=CKKE5JCDxegCFcWrxQIdwDAGbQ&gclsrc=ds Can yall get starter fluid over there? If not, brake parts cleaner works in a pinch. Yeah I've got some of that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,609 Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, TrxPipUK said: Yeah I've got some of that Until I got a parts washer I always used cans of starter fluid. In fact, even with the parts washer I still get into the hard to reach spots with starter fluid. It does a great job of cleaning and leaves no residue. You will need to oil all your bearings after using it as it will totally clean everything out, including the bearings, and you don't want them spinning dry when you first crank the engine back up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retro 4,048 Posted March 31, 2020 Do the best that you can Pip. You can use a scotchbrite pad to rub off any surface rust stains you encounter before washing those parts. Once you get everything clean don't forget to lubricate each moving part with fresh motor oil before reassembly. EDIT: Jeep beat me to it. ^^^^ 🙂 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,868 Posted March 31, 2020 make notes as to where all washers are !!!!!..lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks guys. So I need to remove all the gears. How would you suggest cleaning around the balancer and crank shaft? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,868 Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, TrxPipUK said: Thanks guys. So I need to remove all the gears. How would you suggest cleaning around the balancer and crank shaft? once all the tranny parts, reverse idle gear is out, just hold the case upright, spray it down a lot, blow it out best ya can with air. i see no reason to pull the shift drum out, leave it in there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 Do I not need to pull the shift drum to get these gears out? Is this big gear the reverse idle gear? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,868 Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, TrxPipUK said: Do I not need to pull the shift drum to get these gears out? Is this big gear the reverse idle gear? no, that gear at the top of pic, with a rod through it, thats your reverse idle gear. pull the rod with the shift forks, then pull the transmission ( main and counter shafts ) try to lift them out together as a set, there is washers on the very bottom of both shafts !!!, then pull the shift forks out, all that should be left in the case is the crank, and idle gear right next to the crank, leave those in the case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,868 Posted March 31, 2020 dont you have a service manual ???..lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks @shadetree. I've just been looking at the service manual as well. I do have it just I forget to look lol. Sorry for the hassle. I'll try get those gears out tomorrow. Thanks again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadetree 5,868 Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, TrxPipUK said: Thanks @shadetree. I've just been looking at the service manual as well. I do have it just I forget to look lol. Sorry for the hassle. I'll try get those gears out tomorrow. Thanks again haha..your not being a hassle..maybe lazy ?..but deff not a hassle ..rofl. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted April 1, 2020 Here's some before and after pics from yesterday when I cleaned it out. Still need to get those gears out... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeepwm69 7,609 Posted April 1, 2020 If you look at the 500 transmission I pulled you'll see what Shade is talking about, pulling the pin that holds the shift forks in place, then pulling the forks out, the shift drum out, and then pull the gear clusters out as assemblies, keeping them together. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, jeepwm69 said: If you look at the 500 transmission I pulled you'll see what Shade is talking about, pulling the pin that holds the shift forks in place, then pulling the forks out, the shift drum out, and then pull the gear clusters out as assemblies, keeping them together. Thanks man that's actually really helpful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted April 2, 2020 I bought this gasket kit with what looks like everything I need. It's got a load of o-rings with it as well. Any idea where they all go and what I should be replacing? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishfiles 20,145 Posted April 2, 2020 I would tell you , put one every place you find one that will fit , then you are most likely going to have a few left over 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Fishfiles said: I would tell you , put one every place you find one that will fit , then you are most likely going to have a few left over Yeah that's what I'll do. Just haven't seen many so far lol. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted April 2, 2020 So I've cleaned this gasket surface up best I could with a razor blade and It feels smooth to the touch. Does it look good enough to you guys? Or does it need to be completely shiny? Also, I've found a spot just above the fly wheel where it looks like someone has used a screwdriver to get the cover off. Will this be a problem? It's at the top so shouldn't leak oil right? Thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrxPipUK 169 Posted April 2, 2020 Before and after. What do you think? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
